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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Wednesday, November 15, 2006

Article on Hyper Dispensationalism

In lew of a Bible conferance I went to at my church I want to warn of this starnge teaching. Dispensationalists have to believe in 2 raptures and 2 secong comings. I do thank Alan for his recent comments on the blog as well. You know when people start stating "O the Baptists are the one true church" or anything similar I think thats spirtual pride.
Why are their so many agendas out there?
Now I also want to state that I believe The King James Bible is a very good translation and that there are some very bad translations and so called Bibles such as The Message which in fact is not a Bible at all but what Eugene Peterson thinks the Bible says.
But there are other good translations out there as well.
The teacher at the conferance I went to was not what I would call hyper but he was close.
Please read your Bibles and allow the Holy Spirit to lead you into all truth.
That being said.

Here is the article-

What is Hyper-Dispensationalism? Some other names of this movement are called: "Ultra-Dispensationalism, Mid-Acts Dispensationalists, Acts 9 Dispensationalists, Acts 13 Dispensationalism, Acts 28 Dispensationalism." Basically put the main beliefs are that Paul preached a different gospel than what the Apostles taught. Acts 9, Acts 13, and Acts 28 Dispensationalists believe that the Church started with Paul's conversion and it was through him that the body of Christ began.



There are many (not all) involved with this movement that believe the only true English Bible today is the Authorized King James Bible. They go against all other English translations and say they are full of lies and errors. Another important thing concerning this movement is that they reject the 4 Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke, John) as being for the body of Christ. They believe for doctrine and practice they are to go only by what Paul has written, but strangely enough they use other portions of the Bible to prove their theology.



Within this movement they claim to be "true Bereans and rightly dividing the Word", but they are in fact wrongly dividing the Word of God and are not true Bereans. Not all of those involved in the Mid Acts Dispensationalism movement believe the exact same things. Check out our information below concerning this counterfeit movement claiming to be Christian and their claims of being true Bereans.

Why Be Concerned With Mid Acts Dispensationalists

Some people are not aware of the dangers of this movement, and the purpose of this information is to share why people need to be concerned with Mid Acts Dispensationalists.
What do I mean by Mid Acts Dispensationalists?
There are different groups that people label Mid Acts Dispensationalists and I want to make it clear on who I am addressing. In this context when I say Mid Acts Dispensationalists I am referring to those who call themselves "Bereans, Acts Dispensationalists, Pauline followers, Grace believers, right dividers", among other descriptions. This movement for the most part is new but it is growing and when examining their theology there are some dangers that need to be addressed, and not all of them have all of these exact beliefs, but for the most part most do.
Mid Acts Dispensationalists beliefs?
There are many things concerning Mid Acts Dispensational beliefs and the following information will be the basic doctrines of those who identify themselves as Mid Acts Dispensational believers and things to be concerned about.

They believe that the only true authorized English version of the Bible is the King James Bible. That means they believe that all other English translations either have translational errors or theological errors because of how they view the King James Bible. The problem with this is that there are various King James editions and most of them do not know which one they are clinging to or which one is the most accurate. Majority of those in this movement seem to give the opinion that those who do not use the King James are being corrupted with false doctrines and being led astray by the devil.

They believe that the books written by the Apostle Paul are solely for the body of Christ to live by and for doctrine. They go on to say that all other books are for the body of Christ for informative reasons but not for doctrine, which gets scary in some areas. Those of this movement word it this way, "All of the Bible is for us but not all of the Bible is written to us." This is some crafty wording and many people have been deceived into believing un-Biblical doctrines through inaccurate ways of interpretation.

They believe that the books of Paul are the only books that teach salvation is by grace through faith in Christ for salvation. They believe that all of the other books of the Bible teach a works salvation, including the other books in the New Testament.

They believe that all other books of the Bible other than the ones Paul wrote are for the Jews and Jewish Christians. Along with that they go on to teach that the book of Hebrews, James, epistles of Peter, epistles of John, Jude, and Revelation are all books for Jewish Christians and that the information within them is dealing solely with the Great Tribulation.

They believe that they are to follow Paul, for Paul was the first one to preach the true gospel message for salvation in Christ by faith alone. They go on to teach that Jesus and the Apostles before Paul taught a works gospel message for salvation, and that it was not until Paul became a Christian that the body of Christ began and the message of grace was being taught.

They believe that the gifts of the Holy Spirit are no longer for today. They believe that 1 Corinthians 13:10 teaches with the completion of the Bible the gifts are no longer needed for the body of Christ and for the world.

They believe the body of Christ is not to be partaking of the Lord's Supper because that was for the Jewish Christians and is yet for the future with God's earthly kingdom. They teach that this was not for the body of Christ and is not for us today.

They separate Jewish Christians from the body of Christ and make them two different groups.

They teach that Jewish Christians and believers from the Old Testament will be reigning on the earth through God's kingdom program and the body of Christ will be living forever in heaven.

There are some who teach that if you do not hold to these teachings (Mid Acts Beliefs) you truly are not a Christian and have been deceived through Satan's lies.

Dangers of Mid Acts Dispensationalism
When examining all of this information and putting the pieces together it is clear that this movement of itself is dangerous and some-what-cultic in theology. The leaders of this movement have put together formulas of ideas and doctrines which over time have become a seductive deception to the body of Christ. Just so it is clear, our thoughts are not that all those in involved this movement are not saved but rather it is possible for people in this movement to be truly Christian. But the movement itself is against the clear principles of following Christ and putting Him first, and we must be very careful of the spiritual diseases that have come from those who claim to be "rightly dividing" but in truth are "spiritually deceived".

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