Brian McLaren his view on hell,the atonement and other issues
Unbeliever Brian McLaren and his views on hell and the atonement. Scary that this guy was voted one of the top influential evangelicals by Time Magazine.
source-http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,1022576,00.html
Folks this guy is not a saved Christian.
He is a Christian in name only.
The video was taken from the bleeding purple podcast found here.
http://www.enteuxis.org/leifh/bleedingpurple21b.mp3
Brian denies that Jesus was God instead Brian lumps Jesus in with Gandhi and Martin Luther King JR and suggests its best to think of Jesus as one of many rather than lift him up as some extraordinary example.
Brian doesn't want us to think of Christianity as an exclusive religion.
But Jesus said in John 14:6
"6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
Which contradicts what Brian states.
Do you believe Brian McLaren or Jesus Christ?
You cant believe both.
Brian is also quoted in Preacher Magazine a Nazarene magazine to pastors.
Here-http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/pmol/emerging.htm
Brian also well as he speaks at Nazarene colleges.
If the Nazarene leadership doesn't even think to protect its own leadership from false teachers who do you think guards the sheep?
Come on folks wake up out of the stupor you are in.
Here are some more Brian McLaren quotes
"I don't think we've got the gospel right yet. What does it mean to be 'saved'?.... I don't think the liberals have it right. But I don't think we have it right either. None of us has arrived at orthodoxy."
––Brian McLaren, The Emergent Mystique, Christianity Today, 2004
"Tony [Campolo] and I might disagree on the details, but I think we are both trying to find an alternative to both traditional Universalism and the narrow, exclusivist understanding of hell [that unless you explicitly accept and follow Jesus, you are excluded from eternal life with God and destined for hell]."
--Brian McLaren’s Inferno 2, Out of Ur, May 2006
"What if Jesus' secret message reveals a secret plan?".... What if he didn't come to start a new religion--but rather came to start a political, social, religious, artistic, economic, intellectual, and spiritual revolution that would give birth to a new world?"
––Brian McLaren, The Secret Message of Jesus, p. 4
“.... Alan Jones is a pioneer in reimagining a Christian faith that emerges from authentic spirituality. His work stimulates and encourages me deeply.” (Brian McLaren's comments on the back flap of Alan Jones' book Reimagining Christianity where Alan Jones states the following about the Christ's crucifixion: "The Church's fixation on the death of Jesus as the universal saving act must end, and the place of the cross must be reimagined in Christian faith. Why? Because of the cult of suffering and the vindictive God behind it." (p. 132)
"The other thread of just criticism addresses the suggestion implicit in the cross that Jesus' sacrifice was to appease an angry god. Penal substitution [the Cross] was the name of this vile doctrine." (p. 168)
“The church latched on to that old doctrine of original sin like a dog to a stick, and before you knew it, the whole gospel got twisted around it. Instead of being God’s big message of saving love for the whole world, the gospel became a little bit of secret information on how to solve the pesky legal problem of original sin.”
--Brian McLaren, The Last Word and the Word After That, p.134
"I must add, though, that I don't believe making disciples must equal making adherents to the Christian religion. It may be advisable in many circumstances to help people become followers of Jesus and remain within their Buddhist, Hindu, or Jewish contexts."
---Brian McLaren, A Generous Orthodoxy, p. 260
"I am a Christian because I believe that, in all these ways, Jesus is saving the world. By “world” I mean planet Earth and all life on it, because left to ourselves, un-judged, un-forgiven, and un-taught, we will certainly destroy this planet and its residents. And by “the world” I specifically mean human history, because again, it was and is in danger, grave danger, ultimate danger, self-imposed danger, and I don’t believe anyone else can rescue it.”
---Brian McLaren, A Generous Orthodoxy, p. 97
source-http://www.time.com/time/press_releases/article/0,8599,1022576,00.html
Folks this guy is not a saved Christian.
He is a Christian in name only.
The video was taken from the bleeding purple podcast found here.
http://www.enteuxis.org/leifh/bleedingpurple21b.mp3
Brian denies that Jesus was God instead Brian lumps Jesus in with Gandhi and Martin Luther King JR and suggests its best to think of Jesus as one of many rather than lift him up as some extraordinary example.
Brian doesn't want us to think of Christianity as an exclusive religion.
But Jesus said in John 14:6
"6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."
Which contradicts what Brian states.
Do you believe Brian McLaren or Jesus Christ?
You cant believe both.
Brian is also quoted in Preacher Magazine a Nazarene magazine to pastors.
Here-http://www.nph.com/nphweb/html/pmol/emerging.htm
Brian also well as he speaks at Nazarene colleges.
If the Nazarene leadership doesn't even think to protect its own leadership from false teachers who do you think guards the sheep?
Come on folks wake up out of the stupor you are in.
Here are some more Brian McLaren quotes
"I don't think we've got the gospel right yet. What does it mean to be 'saved'?.... I don't think the liberals have it right. But I don't think we have it right either. None of us has arrived at orthodoxy."
––Brian McLaren, The Emergent Mystique, Christianity Today, 2004
"Tony [Campolo] and I might disagree on the details, but I think we are both trying to find an alternative to both traditional Universalism and the narrow, exclusivist understanding of hell [that unless you explicitly accept and follow Jesus, you are excluded from eternal life with God and destined for hell]."
--Brian McLaren’s Inferno 2, Out of Ur, May 2006
"What if Jesus' secret message reveals a secret plan?".... What if he didn't come to start a new religion--but rather came to start a political, social, religious, artistic, economic, intellectual, and spiritual revolution that would give birth to a new world?"
––Brian McLaren, The Secret Message of Jesus, p. 4
“.... Alan Jones is a pioneer in reimagining a Christian faith that emerges from authentic spirituality. His work stimulates and encourages me deeply.” (Brian McLaren's comments on the back flap of Alan Jones' book Reimagining Christianity where Alan Jones states the following about the Christ's crucifixion: "The Church's fixation on the death of Jesus as the universal saving act must end, and the place of the cross must be reimagined in Christian faith. Why? Because of the cult of suffering and the vindictive God behind it." (p. 132)
"The other thread of just criticism addresses the suggestion implicit in the cross that Jesus' sacrifice was to appease an angry god. Penal substitution [the Cross] was the name of this vile doctrine." (p. 168)
“The church latched on to that old doctrine of original sin like a dog to a stick, and before you knew it, the whole gospel got twisted around it. Instead of being God’s big message of saving love for the whole world, the gospel became a little bit of secret information on how to solve the pesky legal problem of original sin.”
--Brian McLaren, The Last Word and the Word After That, p.134
"I must add, though, that I don't believe making disciples must equal making adherents to the Christian religion. It may be advisable in many circumstances to help people become followers of Jesus and remain within their Buddhist, Hindu, or Jewish contexts."
---Brian McLaren, A Generous Orthodoxy, p. 260
"I am a Christian because I believe that, in all these ways, Jesus is saving the world. By “world” I mean planet Earth and all life on it, because left to ourselves, un-judged, un-forgiven, and un-taught, we will certainly destroy this planet and its residents. And by “the world” I specifically mean human history, because again, it was and is in danger, grave danger, ultimate danger, self-imposed danger, and I don’t believe anyone else can rescue it.”
---Brian McLaren, A Generous Orthodoxy, p. 97
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