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Monday, December 03, 2007

Christian Leaders betray Christ for World Peace

This article by Paul Proctor contains more on businessman Rick Warren and the real purpose that drives him. I will go into more detail about Rick Warren and the real purpose that drives him in a later article this week. You will notice that I do not call Rick a pastor. The reason for that is Rick is a businessman not a pastor no matter what title Rick may claim for himself at that time (and that title changes often from doctor to rancher to other titles).
I believe that much of what Rick is doing will help pave the way for the antichrist.
Whether Rick is aware of this or not.

Here is the article by my brother in the Lord Paul Proctor-

CHRISTIAN LEADERS BETRAY CHRIST FOR WORLD PEACE







By Paul Proctor

November 28, 2007

NewsWithViews.com

Once again, leaders from the so-called "church growth movement" are demonstrating for us the Hegelian Dialectic - that transformational Marxist process of compromise and consensus made famous by Georg William Friedreich Hegel which seeks to rid the world of its divisive absolutes in the interest of global peace and unity.

Here's the formula: Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis

The Christian Post reported the following in a November 23rd article titled, Christian Leaders Invite Muslims to Love God, Neighbors Together:


Christian leaders across denominational lines responded to the unprecedented open letter signed last month by 138 representative Muslim leaders with their own letter, calling on the two Abrahamic faiths to love God and neighbors together.
The key word here is "together."

To begin with, nowhere in scripture are Christians instructed to unite with other religions and their deities to do anything. Such a plan doesn't display a love for God at all, but only a disregard for Him and His only begotten Son.

Among other things, the dialectic process redefines "love" to mean tolerance instead of obedience, and calls Christianity and Islam "Abrahamic faiths" as if the two groups have some moral obligation to unite under a god of common ground.

"Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God." - James 4:4

The Bible is uncompromisingly clear on this issue both in 2nd Corinthians 6:14-17, where we are specifically commanded to not yoke ourselves with unbelievers, and again in Ephesians 5:11, where we are instructed to "have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness."

Jesus Himself said: "He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth." (Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23)

How then can Christians join Muslims to love God together and not be an abomination before Him? We're talking about two entirely different "Gods" here - not the same God with differing names. And that's the big lie hidden in this global agenda. By swapping love letters with Muslims, these "Christian leaders" endeavor to legitimize the illegitimate by setting aside the whole counsel of God for Results & Relationships.

Jesus Christ is not the Son of Allah; and to even imply that He is by claiming to love the same "God" as Muslims is not only being dangerously deceitful - it's blasphemy!

But that's what the Hegelian Dialectic does to the Christian faith - it unites opposites and enemies under a guise of goodness - all at the Lord's expense; and that is and always has been the modus operandi of the "church growth movement" - to mingle the sheep with the goats until they are indistinguishable.

Christianity (thesis) + Islam (antithesis) = One World Religion (synthesis)

It should come as no surprise to the readers of my column that two of the reported signers of this letter who "share the sentiments" of Muslim leaders are none other than pastors Rick Warren of Purpose Driven Life fame, and the seeker-sensitive Bill Hybels from Willow Creek Community Church.

The CP article went on to say:


"Peaceful relations between Muslims and Christians stand as one of the central challenges of this century, and perhaps of the whole present epoch," wrote the Christian leaders.
I thought the Great Commission was our central challenge as Christians - to love God and our neighbor by faithfully and obediently proclaiming His Gospel - to preach the cross - to call sinners to repentance and faith for the forgiveness of sins through the shed blood of Jesus Christ!

Have we now abandoned that for an ecumenical Plan B to world peace?


"If we can achieve religious peace between these two religious communities, peace in the world will clearly be easier to attain."
But Jesus said in Matthew 10:34, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword" which is the Word of God that divides us, not just from the strange fire of other religions, but oftentimes from our own beloved family members.

"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household." - Matthew 10:35-36

Do Warren and Hybels believe the Bible or not?

You be the judge:


Christian leaders urged for an interfaith dialogue that moves beyond "polite" ecumenical talks between selected leaders. Instead, leaders of both faiths should hold dialogues to build relations that will "reshape" the two communities to "genuinely reflect our common love for God and for one another," the Christian letter stated.
My, how this bunch loves to re-imagine, re-interpret, re-define, re-envision, re-invent, re-think and re-shape the world to suit them!

"Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls." - Jeremiah 6:16a

You see, they're not just seeking to shake hands with Muslims on the street, at work or in the grocery store - the objective here is to "hold dialogues to build relations." That's the dialectic process I referred to earlier that relieves participants of their divisive absolutes for a compromised collective conscience, resulting in a synthesis of spiritual beliefs that both can embrace together peacefully. (i.e., religious groupthink)

Why do they want to "hold dialogues to build relations?"

To "reshape the two communities" so as to "genuinely reflect our common love for God."

Which "God" - theirs or ours?



And that's what this is really all about - systematically merging the two faiths into one through the dialectic process - not merely finding "common ground" or "reflecting" a "common love for God," but actually creating a common god for the common good.

Who stands to benefit from this?

The coming antichrist, of course.

Kind of gives a whole new meaning to the term "church growth movement," doesn't it?



In spite of their seemingly benevolent agenda, Jesus Christ came to offer peace with God - not peace with Allah.

"Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds" - 2nd John 1: 9-11

Related articles:

1. Christian Leaders Invite Muslims to Love God, Neighbors Together
2. A Christian Response to 'A Common Word Between Us and You'
3. The Church of Common Ground
4. What Rick Warren Wants
5. Willow Creek Hegelian Dialectic & The New World Order
6. The Test of Faith

© 2007 Paul Proctor - All Rights Reserved

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Paul Proctor, a rural resident of the Volunteer state and seasoned veteran of the country music industry, retired from showbiz in the late 1990's to dedicate himself to addressing important social issues from a distinctly biblical perspective. As a freelance writer and regular columnist for NewsWithViews.com, he extols the wisdom and truths of scripture through commentary and insight on cultural trends and current events. His articles appear regularly on a variety of news and opinion sites across the internet and in print.

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