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Saturday, December 02, 2006

Stuck in Stupid AGAIN

I really dont understand what the followers of Warren do not get.
Do you suppose they are stuck in stupid?
The Bible calls this the great delusion.
Here are a couple quotes from WND news-
I'll report you decide.

In response, Schenck said his National Clergy Council rejects "the charge that we 'exploit the Christian faith' to advance a 'divisive agenda,'" arguing his members "are fully engaged in a plethora of ministries from prophetically declaring the Truth of God's Word, to evangelism and missions, to outreaches to the homeless, the hungry, the addicted, the sick, the persecuted and the imprisoned."
Schenck said it's "unseemly and regrettable for Christians to point their fingers and beat their chests, competing for the top prize of 'most compassionate' or 'champion of justice.' Jesus said when it comes to Godly acts of generosity we are not to let our right hand know what our left hand is doing. In other words, we are not to brag about the good things we do."
Schenck then pointed out that he and several other executive officers of his group have spent most of their ministry careers in "ministries of Christian compassion."
"Rather than get into a spitting war over who better cares for the needy, let us focus on the real issue at the center of this controversy," he said.
Schenck called the HIV/AIDS epidemic "an enormous human tragedy that demands an immediate and unequivocal Christ-like response."
He complemented Warren and his wife, Kay, for their new initiative and said his "only criticism for Pastor Warren is related to his invitation to share his pulpit – what many of us call 'the sacred desk' – with a politician who has a consistent record of advancing specific policies, legislation and spending that have resulted or will result in the willful killing of babies in the womb and birth canal."
Schenck said the result of Obama's appearance behind the pulpit – "the place where the Truth of God's Word is, presumably, proclaimed without compromise" – will be "discord, division and confusion among Christians."

(I would like you to focus on perhaps the last two paragraphs and here is a comment from Slick Rick.)

Rick Warren "Another blogger claimed I've invited Barack Obama to preach in my pulpit to the Saddleback congregation. Of course that is untrue. I'd never invite ANY politician to speak from the pulpit to our congregation. Never. …" "

I remember at that time President Clinton pointing his finger and stating "I did not have sex.... you know the comment.

So I guess I dont get what Warrens followers dont get.
Unless a pulpit is not really a pulpit?
And at Saddleback Im sure that is largely true from hearing the sermons come out of that building.


Anonymous Shelley said...

Something to think about: How about writing an article titled "Putting Your Finger On It (The first signs of a church going astray)"

Rick Warren may fail and fade away, but you may be certain that two more will arise to take his place. What are some timeless symptoms that the nagging feeling that something is wrong at church, but it's hard to say what, are in fact Biblically sound?

Easy markers are denying the Virgin birth or condoning sin, but I have in mind the subtle ones, the slowly boiled frog syndrome.

Right now we could advise someone to watch for certain buzzwards or resource materials, but that will change in time. What would you say are the top ten (timeless) signs of a church/pastor that has begun to wander off the Way?

4:18 PM  

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