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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Friday, May 18, 2012

The Goofy World of Dan Bohi This article is from a post sent to my friend and brother Manny Silva. I have spoken about Dan Bohi and I think his teaching is dangerous and unbiblical and should be avoided. Dan is textbook Word of Faith even the title of his sermon suggests that. Dan has also compared what he does to what Benny Hinn does. I find that is actually correct on Dans part. What Dan preaches is Word of Faith and also typical Kingdom Now heresy. But I would encourage you to come to your own conclusions after review the U Tube tapes for yourself. What Dan teaches about Kingdom Now is very much in align with what is taught in the Emergent Church as well as the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) here is some info on that organization by my friend and brother in the Lord Sandy Simpson http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html Dans teaching about preaching to animals in Part two is on the level of goofiness like when Benny Hinn taught there were 9 members to the Trinity. But again I encourage you to review the U tube videos and decide for yourselves. Im often asked did you contact the guy (or gal). Well yes I have and Dan choose to answer me through his wife. Who was a very nice lady but said a lot of nothing and did not directly address my concerns, Here are the comments that were sent to Manny. On the Sunday evening of 5/6/12, I went to the Dallas church near downtown to listen to Dan Bohi’s sermon. I did not feel comfortable after I heard some of the statements he made in his preaching. This raised some red flags in my mind about him. To make sure that I am not overly dogmatic, I also took several hours to listen to Dan’s online sermon on YouTube “take another drink” (9 parts). After I listened to the sermon, I confirmed that I am not making something out of nothing. What concerned me the most is his definition of the term “sanctification”. Dan Bohi rejected the traditional interpretation of the term “sanctification” as God’s complete work of salvation in believers, making them to conformed to the image of Christ in Godliness and righteous living, to live a godly life in doing God’s will as Jesus did. Instead, according to Dan, the term “sanctification” means to be “commissioned, set apart, sanctified by God to replicate the ministry of Jesus” in the sense to work miracles in charismatic power as Jesus did. Here is the quote of the first 2 and a half minutes from his sermon “Take Another Drink 1/9″ on the YouTube: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVirTXTfAQA&feature=relmfu Minutes 0-2:30) He (Dan) said: The problem with Protestantism is that we keep trying to prove a theory or a doctrine instead of living Jesus. … A big point when dealing with Protestant, the term “sanctification” can be shown, not to be “needs to be shown”, not just “being good”, which in Protestants equals “holiness and sanctification”, but it originally meant “ordained for priesthood”. A priest was someone who ideally inquired of God, to give God’s immediate prophetic word to the people who come consulted with him. They also involved in healing. So if you are sanctified and made holy in the biblical sense, not in the Protestants’ sense, you will be commissioned, set apart, sanctified by God to replicate the ministry of Jesus—to introduce the kingdom, the spirit of God in charismatic power, in the gift of Sprint power. So the real gospel is the miracle power, the dutumas (Greek word), and the salvation, healing, deliverance, not just being good enough to go to heaven, but be empowered enough to bring heaven to earth. But what is “living Jesus?” In the end of this sermon “Take Another Drink 7/9”, Dan Bohi gave the definition of “Living Jesus”. First Dan cited several manifestations of the “spirit” during his previous services; (one of them is this: 22 people who were depressed came to the alter, then, before Dan even lay hand on them, they just start to laughing and Dan also start laughing, then all 22 people get healed;) later, in the context of those testimonies of signs and wonders, Dan defined “Living Jesus” as follows: We need word and the Spirit; We need purity and Power; We need the fruit and the gift; We need doctrine on display; We don’t need it on the shelf; we need to “live Jesus”. (“Take Another Drink 7/9″ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDPyxD8m9RY , minutes 6:23) From all the context of the above words in the sermon, I do believe that Dan was defining “living Jesus” as the outward manifestation of signs and wonders such as miracle healing, etc. Preaching about miracle healings by itself is not wrong. After all, the Holy Spirit has more miraculous power than all false spirits. What was wrong is this: he was defining these outward manifestations of signs and wonder as “Living Jesus” and “Sanctification”. That became seriously wrong and unbiblical. That certainly violated the fundamental belief of Nazarene church. And he explicitly rejected the fundamental interpretation of the term “sanctification” by protestant tradition, which includes protestant denomination such as Nazarene. I believe the protestant’s especially the Church of Nazarene’s interpretation of the term “sanctification” is sound and correct. Sanctification IS the work of God that prepares us “to be good enough to go to heaven “, for apart from holiness, no one can see God. “10For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness…. 14Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.” (Hebrews 12:10,:14). But in Dan’s view sanctification is not about making us good enough go to heaven, but about making us empowered enough to bring heaven to earth (see the above quotes of his definition on “sanctification”). This is pretty heretical. If this was true, why then the Apostle Peter had urged Christians NOT to put their hope on earth but put their hope in heaven? 2 Peter 3 clearly taught us that our chief end is not about this present life, but about the life to come. For this current earth will be destroyed in fire, therefore we ought to look for the new heaven and the new earth where righteousness dwells, and be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless (,which in Dan’s phrase “to be good enough” to enter the eternal kingdom of heaven). 2 Peter 3:10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. 14Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; Apostle Paul in Colossians also affirmed this view: Colossians 3:1If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. It seems that in Dan’s view, the Spirit is not in the Word, the Power is not in the purity, the display has to be some kind of outward manifestation of physicals. What kind of power was he promoting? I had to ask. I totally agree that we need to have godly power to live as Jesus lived, and that a mere head-knowledge of doctrines is not enough to ensure us to go to heaven, but to seek charismatic experience pertaining to this life is not the way to go! Another thing that concerns me is his downplaying and discouraging the preaching of the Word and ridiculing of doctrinal discernment and critical thinking. He made statement like these: “the kingdom of God is not a matter of word, but a matter of power …. it’s not preach preach preach preach…” , “I don’t think they killed Jesus because he is the good preacher, I think they killed Jesus because he did what they couldn’t do.” I consider this last statement as totally false. I believe that had Jesus only worked miracles, the Jews would not have crucified him; the Jews crucified Jesus because Jesus condemned them for their sins and preach the gospel of repentance and judgment (Luke 4:14-30). They crucified Jesus because Jesus preached the message of the cross and refused to give them a temporal kingdom pertaining to this world, but proclaimed that he is the King of the eternal kingdom of the new world to come (John 2:23-25, John 6, 8)! Another bizarre thing is that he talked about preaching to animals. Whether he meant it or he was simply making some coarse jokes, I don’t know, but he sure spent a long time talking about these kind of nonsense, which at minimum was distractive. I feel those speeches were very unsanctified idle talks. Over all, Dan Bohi alert me a lot. He remind me of the false Christianity of the Word Faith Movement, the Kansas City Prophets, and of Todd Bentley. Todd Bentley was the notorious preacher who led the Florida false revival in 2008. Todd Bentley also claimed that he has the anointing and the charismatic power to heal people. But after he laid hands on people, many of them just laugh hysterically and behave like being demon possessed. Todd Bentley himself ended up with having an affair with one of his staff during or shortly after the false revival and eventually he divorced his wife and married the co-worker. Here are some footage of Todd Bentley’s manifestation of “power”, and “the signs and wonders”. You can see for yourself whether they were manifestations of the Holy Spirit or the unholy spirits. Anyway, discernment is an individual responsibility. I will keep my eyes open and my mind and heart carefully guarded, and I hope everyone in the church will do the same. For “Some men’s sins are clearly evident, preceding them to judgment, but those of some men follow later. 25Likewise, the good works of some are clearly evident, and those that are otherwise cannot be hidden” (1 Tim 5:24-25).

2 Comments:

Blogger Michael Chenoweth said...

...years ago, i mentioned to my uncle, who is from Tulsa, what an embarrassment Oral Roberts was for Christianity and for Tulsa. he responded, "well, i dont really look at it that way, and i don't look disfavorably upon Oral Roberts. despite his seemingly unorthodox ways (and sometimes his teaching is not in line with my own), he has ministered the gospel to millions more than i ever will". it makes me sick when guys like you attack people who, for the most part, believe almost exactly the same things you and i do: one God, one Savior, one Holy Spirit, triune God, creator of the universe, born of a virgin, lived and died a sinless life, fully man yet fully God, died sacrificially for our sins. yet, you deem it necessary to point out (to your limited audience) differences in theology. you sit behind your kit and blog away, criticizing men who don't line up with your limited gospel. if you can say with 100% certainty that your perspective on the gospel is 100% accurate, then God bless you in your ignorance.

why don't you spend your time bashing the real problems in the church? greed, self, liberal theology that doesn't believe the inspired Word of God allowing unholy into the pulpit. why don't you expose the mormon church or the jehovah's witness? why don't you warn of the global threat of islam? go into your secret place, pray and ask God if He is proud of you bashing one of His servants? Dan may not align with your theology, but he believes in Christ risen, Christ thru His church powerful. how many people have you led to salvation thru your friggin' rants? as many as Dan? me thinks not. you're an embarrassment to the faith

10:10 PM  
Blogger Tim Wirth said...

I published the last comment to show the cult like following false teachers have. Like Bill Johnson, the Kansas City Prophets,IHOP and the Latter Day Rain movement the followers cone out of the woodwork to defend false gospels and false teachers
Can we be sure the gospel being preached is 100 percent accurate?
sure we can
Just check the scriptures no matter how much doubt people want to throw up we can rest assured the Holy Spirit will lead us to the truth of the true gospel message

9:07 AM  

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