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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Sunday, October 09, 2005

Scratch People Where They Itch


Ok maybe Schuller started it and handed it off to Bill Hybels and Rick Warren who has perfected it. But these guys love to scratch people where they itch. Appeal to the flesh and then try to trick people into Christianity. Most people with half a brain and a good translation of a Bible know this is not so.
Check this quote from this apostate website-
"If you want to reach the unconvinced—those who haven’t made a commitment to Christ—then you need to attract them. When people don’t know God and aren’t convinced their lives are all that bad without God, the only way to attract them is to offer them something they need. You get their attention by identifying an itch they have and scratching it.

We know how this sounds as we listen through our formerly legalistic ears. We can hear 2 Timothy 4:3 being quoted right now: “For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.” -end quote
here is the link.
http://www.revmagazine.com/RV0905_files/AttractingCrowd0905.htm
Notice they state "formerly legalistic ears" that means formerly they believed the Bible now they don't.
Plus they are suggesting that you manipulate people with music.
So lets cut to the chase. What are they saying here.
You entertain people and pump them up so they will feel a false sense of emotion.
You appeal to their felt needs (when their one and only true need in a Savior).
And then somehow by magic they get saved.
Problem is they won't.
Jesus never entertained the crowds. He spoke His message.
Some followed.
Some did not.
Unsaved people will never feel at ease with music that is worshipping a holy God.
If they feel comfortable in your church while you are worshipping.
Your worship is false.
It's never been the job of the church to attract people by entertaining them-never.
"The Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved"
"Paul planted, Apollos watered but God gave the increase."
We need to get off our our lazy behinds and GO and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with a lost and dying world.
Its not the churches job to trick the world into the church by making the church into the world.
If you did'nt get that last statement go back and read it again because thats whats going on.
The Crystal cancer of Willow Creek and Saddleback is spreading throughout the church.
But hey it makes your job easier doesnt it?
Instead of perhaps offending someone by letting them know that Jesus died a bloody death for their sins (ohh the S word).
Lets just invite them to the next barbecue or carnival or play.
Let them be mad at the pastor instead of you.
Trouble is they probably won't be mad at your pastor because good expository preaching has been replaced by the feel good about myself message of apostate dogs like Joel Osteen and Rick Warren.
And if you take offence to me calling Rick Warren apstate go through Ricks articles on Ladies Home Journel. Go back and read Purpose Driven Life and search the scriptures to see if Rick is telling the truth.
We all know what Joels about. Its the guys speaking out both sides of their mouths we are not sure of.
Do I sound angry?
Well I am.
I see the pollution and distiortion of Gods holy word and yea I get ticked.
And its only going to get worse.
Am I a legalist?
No. I just believe that what God says in His word is true.

Let me say one more thing. Most of this is about bringing in more people to pad the wallet of the pastor (and or pastors).
A godly pastor would never resort to entertainment-never.
So again quit being a milk sucker go out and share the gospel of Jesus Christ with someone. And then get them into a church that worships God in spirit and in truth and teaches the word of God with conviction equipping the saints.
And then repeat the process.
God will add the increase as those that are saved.

1 Comments:

Anonymous teaqueen said...

Hi Tim,
Wow, thanks for the article link from RevMagazine. "Attracting a Crowd" was most insightful and sad. I kept thinking of pastors and leadership who would be so influenced by this and how hard it is to resist the 'church growth movment'. This article was an excellent example of manipulation of words and ideas. When the spiritual emement is added, it makes it SOOOOOO hard to resist. I can totally see why church leaders succomb to this. BE A BEREAN!!!!!

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