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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Monday, September 26, 2005

The Purpose Driven Trojan Horse-Taking The Trojan Horse To The World-Rick Warrens Global Ambitions

Do you understand what is being said here? Remarkably, ESA is saying that "unjust social structures" and in particular "the maldistribution of wealth" are the real causes of evil in the world. According to ESA it is these things (e.g., unjust social structures/maldistribution of wealth) which cause "crime, abortion, lack of prayer, secular humanism, etc.." Just on a factual level this is foolish. There is crime at all levels of society irrespective of wealth; abortion is supported most strongly by the wealthy. And does the ESA really believe that changing economic structures would solve the problem of "lack of prayer"? Here the gospel has been reduced to a program for transforming social structures. This is the Marxist line. It does not mean that those who take this position are Communists. but it does mean they have a complete confusion of the kingdom of God with the basic socialistic concepts.
The socialist mentality as promoted by Evangelicals for Social Action and others, and endorsed by much of the evangelical world, is based on double error. First and foremost it is wrong theologically, fundamentally distorting the meaning of the gospel. But it is equally wrong in its naive assessment of the redistribution of wealth and its consequences."
From the chapter- Forms of The World Spirit- in the book"The Great Evangelical Disaster" by Francis A Schaffer.

Keep that quote in mind. Perhaps Francis was alerting us to something that was coming.
So whats Rick Warren have to do with all this. I don't think Slick Rick is going global just so he gets a chance to perhaps play with Bono and U2 if The Edge calls in sick.
Here's is what Warrens has to say-
Warren labeled the five giants:
Spiritual emptiness. "[People] don't know God made them for a purpose."
Egocentric leadership. "The world is full of little Saddams. Most people cannot handle power. It goes to their heads."
Poverty. "Half the world lives on less than $2 per day."
Disease. "We have billions of people dying from preventable disease. That's unconscionable."
Illiteracy. "Half the world is functionally illiterate."
Next, Warren, an incurable lover of slogans and acrostics, wrote out an acrostic, peace, to match up against each of the five global giants:
Plant new churches, or partner with existing ones.
Equip leaders.
Assist the poor.
Care for the sick.
Educate the next generation.

Sounds good doesnt it? But look further. When Rick says plant churches or partner with existing ones what does that mean. It means they become purpose driven-which is flawed and weak Christianity if you can even truely call Ricks methods Christian. What would that mean to churches that are already in Rwanda and Africa who don't want to get onboard the purpose driven cho-cho? Can Ricks business partner make them become purpose driven? Here is one of the fears stated in a article in Christianity Today

"Back in Rwanda, Christians were sorting out their feelings and discovered their enthusiasm was mixed with worry. One well-educated Rwandan leader told me, "One reality that we have to face here is when a leader speaks, we follow even if we are not convinced."
We already know how Slick Ricks gang likes to deal with Purpose Driven Resistors in the states. What could this mean for Christians in Rwanda and Africa where Rick makes business buddies?

And where does it state that Rick Warren wants to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ? (which is already being done by wonderful missionaries in Africa).
Its a great thing to feed the poor and clothe the naked and our Lord Jesus tells us to do this. But if we don't get the gospel of Jesus Christ to this poor lost souls even though we may feed their bellies for a time they will spend a eternity in hell. Does Rick even want to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ in Africa.
We already know Rick doesn't do that here in the much safer haven of the United States. Again look at the Ladies Home Journel article titled "Learning to Love Yourself" Rick had a opportunity here and he folded and denied Christ.
Will he do it in Africa where there is considerable pressure.
Here is a quote of what Rick wants to do once he gets to a village.
"Individuals would be sent out in teams, and on entering a village, they would seek "a man of peace."
"Find the man of peace. Bless him. He blesses you back. Who is the man of peace? He's influential and he's open. He doesn't have to be a Christian. Find a non-Christian who's influential and open—a Muslim or an atheist."
What a Muslim or a atheist?
Rick is asking you to disobey the Bible which states
2 Corinthians 6:14-18
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? And what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. " (KJV)

Our duty as Christian is first andforemostt to share the gospel of Jesus Christ.
Paul often took a collection for the poor to help feed and clothe them.
But it was for poor believers.
Am I suggesting we never feed the poor or clothe the naked?
Of course not. But the most important thing we can do for unbeliever's is to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with them. Where someone lives eternally is much more important than feeding and providing clothes for them.
Lets lead the to salvation through Jesus Christ something that will never go away. Eternal Life with Jesus Christ.

Rick has already struck up a business deal with Rwanda's President who Rick introduced as "
Warren then introduced President Paul Kagame as a "wonderful Christian leader" who has demonstrated his trustworthiness in rebuilding the country."
I have not been able to find that Paul Kagame is a Christian-he may be. I couldnt find it anywhere on Pauls website as well.
Again it will be interesting to see how Purpose Driven Resistors are dealt with in Rwanda and Africa if they choose to not get onboard with Slick Rick. We already know that Rick takes no responsibility for what happens within his man made purpose driven movement.
From Richard Abanes book "Rick Warren and the Purpose that Drives Him"
Page 32-33 Richard Abanes: That brings up "church splits." There have been complaints about "everybody" over 65 years old in a church being "kicked out" because of Rick Warren. Or things like "Everbody who did'nt go along with the 'Rick Warren' program was ousted from the church," What do you say to that?
Rick Warren: A lot of people take a good message and pervert it. Thats been done with every message in the last 2000 years. Anybody can be misquoted; anybody can be mislead. There are a lot of things done in the name of" purpose driven" that I would publicly disavow. I feel no compulsion to defend every stupid mistake that every pastor has made in the name of "purpose -driven." end quote
To the best of my knowledge Rick Warren has never disavowed anything done by one of his churches or people promoting his material-That would be bad for business don't ya think.
But much of Slick Ricks own material promoted on his website and Dan Southerlands book "Transistioning" encourages you to get rid of those who do not "buy in" to your purpose driven vision.
In Africa they don't have laws like we do here. It could be awful for purpose driven resistors there.
In conclusion some parting words from the head of Slick Rick Warren
""Personal computers have brand names. But inside every pc is an Intel chip and an operating system, Windows," Warren says. "The Purpose Driven paradigm is the Intel chip for the 21st-century church and the Windows system of the 21st-century church."

Now ask yourself this. Why is Ricks book so accepted by the world? Im speaking about non Christians here major corporations and all. A secular major corporation would not accept a book that prosteltizes their employeess. They would be afraid that a book would offend possibly Muslim or atheist employees or non-Christian employes's
And don't forget what what New Ager Leornard Sweet states in The New Yorker article "The Cellular Church" by Malcolm Gladwell

"The Best of the evangelical tradition is that you don't plan your way forward--you prophesy your way forward," the theologian Leonard Sweet say's. Rick's prophesying his way forward."
Earlier in the article Rick told his publishers "You guys don't understand," Warren told them. "This is a hundred-million-copy book."
Slick Rick Warren must have learned a thing or two from his ex-Buddist/false teacher buddy Paul Yonggi Cho.

Cho is well aware of his link to occultism, arguing that if Buddhists and Yoga practitioners can accomplish their objectives through fourth dimensional powers, then Christians should be able to accomplish much more by using the same means. (Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, vol. 1 (South Plainfield, NJ: Bridge Publishing, 1979), 37, 41)

"You create the presence of Jesus with your mouth ... He is bound by your lips and by your words ... Remember that Christ is depending upon you and your spoken word to release His presence." (Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, Volume One (So. Plainfield, NJ: Bridge Publishing, 1979), 83)
Cho's concept of fourth-dimensional thinking is nothing short of occultism. In his best-selling book "The Fourth Dimension", Cho unveils his departure from historic Christian theology and his entry into the world of the occult. Cho lists four steps in his incubation formula: 1) Visualize a clear-cut goal or idea in your mind; 2) have a burning desire for your objective; 3) pray until you get the guarantee or assurance from God that what you desire is already yours; 4) speak or confess the end result into existence. ((Hank Hanegraaff, Christianity in Crisis, 1993 citing Paul Yonggi Cho, The Fourth Dimension, Volume One (So. Plainfield, NJ: Bridge Publishing, 1979), 9-35; vol. 2, 18-33)
Rick Warrens other buddy (who profoundly influenced Warren) Robert Schuller wrote the foreward to Cho's book.
In the foreword to Cho's best-known book, The Fourth Dimension, Robert Schuller writes of visualization, "Don't try to understand it. Just start to enjoy it! It's true. It works. It tried it. Thank you -- Paul Yonggi Cho -- for allowing the Holy Spirit to give this message to us and to the world."

Or what the heck Rick may just use his tried and true heavy handed man made marketing plan.

Purpose Driven Life does not offend unbelievers.
Ask yourself why.

I can see it now under the purpose driven golden arches at Saddleback
400,000 pastors from 162 nations served
millions deceived


Blogger Dave Norris said...

The Purpose Driven Life does offend God however.

7:05 PM  

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