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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Monday, October 24, 2005

Something is Emerging

Remenber that old movie "The Blob" with Steve Mcqueen? The giant blob of goo that you really couldnt tell what it is and its coming right at you. Thats pretty much what this new movement is like. Brian Mclaren heads this up. Brian was named one of the top 25 pastors noted by Time magazine.
Funny thing how the world chooses the top 25-that should say something to us about everyone on that list.

One of the things I will always do to see where someones head is at is asking who they are reading or look at the books on the shelves in their office. But keep in mind I have books around that I would never endorse that I use for quotes and research.
In my conversation with Scott the youth pastor at First Baptis I asked him who he was reading besides Henri Nouwen he also metioned he liked Tony Jones.
Well here is a link about Tony
Here is a good link that covers all emerging church stuff

Here is a good article on the guru of emergent slime Brian McLaren

One thing all this New Age stuff has in common is the Bible translation called The Message. Which really isnt a translation at all but a paraphrase and a bad one at that.
It comes from the pen of New Age convert Eugene Peterson

Please study all this material but most of all do your own research on whats going on and being taught to our kids and in our churches.


Blogger Randy said...

So... it's o.k. to sing new songs in new ways that are not listed in the Psalter, but it's not o.k. to pray new prayers in ways not listed in the Bible? Come again?

11:36 PM  
Blogger Tim Wirth said...

Lectio Divina is used to initiate a supernatural encounter with God. And Lectio is not used to pray new prayer. You repeat scripture. Then you find a word or verse that sticks out to you and repeat (chant) that. Hoping for a supernatural encounter with God. Its not at all about praying new prayers. Its about repeating scripture or a sacred word in a mantra fashion with moments of silence. This as well was borroed from the Gnostics, Hindus and Buddists. Thats the tradition the monks borrowed from.
It doesnt have any comparison with singing songs a new way. Songs are supposed to be focused one way-toward God.
Lectio is to try to conjure up a supernatural experience with God.
Which is not needed if your saved because God is already with you.
I would suggest you go back and read all the links in detail again.

12:04 AM  

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