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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Sunday, May 07, 2006

The Willow Creek Leadership Summit

Many churches (including the one I attend) use materials from Willow Creek and Bill Hybels. They pay a certain amount a year to have access to Willow Creeks materials.
Now its one thing for me to state that I believe that Bill Hybels and his organization are part of the apostate church and the great falling away.
Its another thing for me to convince you that Hybels is a pseudo Christian apostate dog.
Can Hybels teach you to put butts in your seats in your buildings.
You bet he can.
And if you use Bills methods you will probably run a very big business and make lots of money.
What ever happened to doing whats right in Gods eyes though?
How much Willow Creek poison to infect your congregation?
I think its about time that our pastors pull their heads out of their collective rears and start protecting their flocks from guys like Bill Hybels and Rick Warren and their business techniques of making more money posing as preachers.
Willow Creek is having Bono speak at their Leadership Summit.
Now for the record I think U2 has made some great music.
But Bono is no more a Christian than Brian Mclaren is.
Read this article on Bono from a rather modern Christian magazine.
Now here is the link that shows the speakers at Willow Creeks Leadership Summit.

Why is it that all this is getting by our pastors?
Its because they are so busy keeping the business going they are not relying on the Holy Spirit to lead them into all truth.
They have built such grand dynasty's it takes lots of hours to run things and keep their salary levels up.
I would encourage you to not give to new building funds.
We need better Christians who can discern wrong from right-good from evil.
Not bigger buildings.
The information is out there folks.
Anyone with a computer has access to loads of information within seconds.
Do you really care about your families and your fellow Christians?
Ive even had many in the church I attend agree with me on many discernment issues and then turn around and support the many apostate organizations that spread the garbage.

I would suggest to any and all of you to really hold everything you read or hear to the light of scripture.
These are dark times folks.

2 Thess 2:10-12
10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Read that verse again-
Get your heads out of the sand before its to late.


Blogger Dave Norris said...

Andy Stanley has recently said that we should not be calling our pastors shepherds. How about calling the enemies of the faith wolves or is that time past too?

10:02 PM  
Blogger Tim Wirth said...

I guess on this one I would have to agree with Andy Stanley. Our pastors are not shepherds because they dont guard the flock. Most have little to no discerment and have no idea whats going on because they are busy running their business's.
Im sure they know more about who is on the Forbes top ten rather than what terms like Emergent or contemplative mean.

10:37 PM  
Blogger Tim Wirth said...

I want to add to my above statement that it applies to the pastors I have encountered or served under. They are more busy running their business then keep in check of what is going on. Some flat out love contemplative and other New Age rituals entering the church.
Are some of the pastors nice guys?
Most of them I have encountered are great guys.
Most successful businessmen know how to win and court people.
I hear Rick Warren is a pro at that.
Doesnt mean they have a lick of discernment though.
Either that or they ingnore truth in favor of whatever works.

Sad to say they look harder at numbers than they do at whats going on.

6:03 PM  

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