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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Wednesday, November 29, 2006

Abortion

I have found it interesting on all those who have come to Rick Warrens defense of having Barak Obama Speak at Saddleback.
Barak's pro-views on abortion are will known and the Christian community has cried out to Slick Rick on his poor choice of speakers.
I wonder how Ricks spin doctor will try to distort this one.
It has also been suggested that perhaps Obama will get the word of God spoke to him at Saddleback and his views on abortion will change.
Thats laughable.
Warren picks and chooses when to even speak about Jesus who he proclaims to believe in.
I doubt whether Obama will get the word of God at Saddleback.
Maybe the word of fraud.

It really is a no brainer on the topic of abortion though.
Abortion kills a defenseless baby.
Its really as simple as that.
Could you imagine the apostles debating abortion?
Whether or not to allow it to save the life of a mother or in which case to allow it.
The killing of a baby would not have even been a topic.
Thats what Herod liked to do.
It would have been a non-issue.

Why is it we dont get it now?
How low can so called believers go?
We should minister in love to those who have made the wrong choice and had their baby killed.
We are all sinners anyway.
But lets call sin what it is.
And not encourage it in any way.

Rick Warren from the pew forum-

MR. WILLIAMS: So on abortion, you're strongly pro-life; is that right?

MR. WARREN:" Sure, I am. It's just not the only thing on the agenda. Of course, if I believe every child is born for a purpose – and in Psalm 139 it says, "I formed you for a purpose in your mother's womb" – then obviously I would believe that abortion short circuits a person's purpose. Sure, but that's not the only issue. A lot of political issues are really what I call heart projection. That is, in the book, I talk about how we're all wired different ways to care about different things. If we all cared about the same thing, a lot would get undone in the world. For instance, I don't know anybody who doesn't believe that the environment isn't important, but some people really care about the environment – it's like they're rabid about it. Well, fine. I think it's important to take care of the environment; it's just not my passion. Some people are really rabid about protecting the rights of the unborn. I happen to believe the rights of the unborn need to be protected, but I'm just not rabid about it. I happen to be rabid about some other things. Why? Because we're all passionate about different things. Now, what happens is, when I force you to say you must feel as passionate as I do about this particular issue, whether you're a believer or not, then that's going to create political conflict. "

I guess the death of millions of babies a year doesnt stir Warrens passion enough to not let someone like Obama speak at his church.
Rick's own agenda seems to be more important than the killing of the innocent and helpless.

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