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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Monday, November 27, 2006

Have you been to Saddleback?


I get this comment a lot.
Have you actually been to Saddleback and went to a service. If not why criticize them?
Well folks I don't need to go to a Benny Hinn rally to know what Benny Hinn is all about.
The church I just to attend in Modesto went yearly to Saddlebacks music conferance.
Plus I have had friends who have played there at the music conferance.
My friends at Fido Blog to a trip there as well.
http://fide-o.blogspot.com/2005/08/15-things-i-learned-at-saddleback.html

But here is the top ten reasons I would not go to a Saddleback service.
10. I don't need my felt needs met-Jesus supplies my needs.
9. I don't own a hula skirt.
8. I own a real Bible translation.
7. Ive already been to a Amway convention so whats the point.
6. I don't agree with contemplative prayer and holy yoga.
5.If I want to watch a show I'll go to a concert.
4. If I want to hear Mike and the Mechanics or Paul Simon (Rich rips of Paul Simons "You can call me Al" in his song "Wonders of God) I'll go see the real artist's performance.
3. If I want to see a circus I'll wait until Ringling Brothers is in town.
2. I want to hear Gods word not Ricks word preached.
And the number one reason for no attending a Saddleback service is this.
1. Rick started this church by supplying and polling the unsaved (Ala Schuller) on what they wanted. The root of this church is evil. Not Biblically based.

So again purpose driven bots I pray that God opens your eyes really.
Life is not purpose driven but Spirit led.
The church is for believers, believe it or not.
Unsaved people should never feel comfortable around music or preaching that is focused on a Holy God.

Does the unsaved feel comfortable in your church?

They should feel loved and welcomed by the people in a church.

But never comfortable when a Holy God inhabits the praises of His people and preaching thats inspired by a pastor seeking the Holy Spirit on his knees.

1 Comments:

Blogger Scott Hill said...

Tim I attended the WorshipGod06 Conference this year done by Sovereign Grace Ministries. It was the best conference for church musicians I have ever been to.

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