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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Tuesday, August 14, 2012

Are all False Teachers Only To Be Considered Christian's? So Who Does Scripture Consider A False Teacher?

I asked this question when I was parts of this string and here are some of the comments . Im leaving out the names because it really doesn't matter the conversation was very disturbing though.

"I consider a false teacher to be someone with the church who teaches falsely and that is how most see it. Otherwise, all non-christians are false teachers. That's ludicrous"
"So Copeland would be a false teacher but Beck is a Mormon. If you over-use false teacher
 for all non-Christians it renders the term almost meaningless."
"Yes, the term false teacher is overused when referring to nonbelievers and proponents of 
false religions, just as the terms evangelical and christian have been stretched totally out of 
shape and really don't mean anything any more as descriptive terms. We always used to say
"define your terms" but nopwadays those terms defy description!"
"I don't call New Age teachers false teachers. They are New Agers. You render the term
meaningless. In context of the Bible, false teachers were in the church being accepted as 
Christians, such as the Gnostic Christians."
This last comment I found astounding " A New Ager cannot be a false teacher to me or any
other Christian because a self-proclaim
ed New Ager cannot teach a true Christian anything.

A self-proclaimed New Ager couldn't deceive any true believer for a moment because they 

do not even say they are teaching Christian concepts."

To state that A New ager cannot be a false teacher and could not deceive a true Christian 

(and Im believing a true Christian to be a saved Christian) is just totally incorrect. Because

 all Christians are at various phases of maturity in their walk with the Lord to say no true or

 saved Christian could be deceived by a new age Christian is just not true and is not based 

in scriptural truth or any other kind of fact.

Now the problem from all the above statement is that they are partially correct Paul is 

warning that wolves will come in sheeps clothing to deceive the flock. But where did the 

wolves get their material from?

Do a study of 1 John the second reason John wrote this book was to warn against the

Gnostics and the Gnostics were around before the birth of Christ. And yes once Christianity

started many Christians started to pull from Gnostic sources. But the roots were here before

 the New Testament were even written.

I think it is very deceptive to try and state that new agers should not be refereed to as false 

teachers and it confuses both the flock and unbelievers.

In Ray Yungens book "For Many Shall Come In My Name" Ray states the following quotes

 we should think about when considering what has been stated above.

A basic tenet of New Age thinking is that of Master Jesus. Adherents to this idea believe that

 during the unrecorded period of His life, Jesus travelled to various places as Tibet, India, 

Persia, and Egypt where He learned the metaphysical secrets of travel on a pilgrimage of 

higher consciousness. According to this theory Jesus of Nazareth became the Master Jesus, 

one who has gained mastery over the physical world by becoming one with his higher self."

 In Mat 24:5 it shows that many will be deceived and in the New Age we can see a faux 

form of Christianity taking form.

From Rays book again " These people will be offering a spiritual message that will look, 

feel, and sound like it is of Jesus Christ but it is not." 

Again a Faux form of Christianity.

Ray Also speaks of the coming man of perdition or anti christ spoken of in2 Thess 2:3-4 

"As "One channeled source made it cleard that the term Christ will mean both the "Christ 

energy" and a man that will personify that energy. The coming one will not be Christian,a 

Hindu, a Buddist, not an American, Jew, Italian, or Russian his title is not important, he is 

for all humanity, to unite all religions, philosophies and nations. The New Age Movement 

being united by a common mystical bond. Which the new age movement has been a key 

player in bringing together.

This article was not to prove myself right in an argument but to point out that scripture 

points that you either agree with the truth that it bears witness to. Or what you are teaching

is false. Therefore anything taught outside of scripture is false. And anyone teaching 

anything outside of scripture is teaching something false. And if they add to scripture they

 are also false teachers. Don't let anyone confuse the issue for you in this great time of 


For further study buy Ray Yungens book ""For Many Shall Come In My Name" From LightHouse Trail Publishing. A good source of Biblically solid materials


Blogger Marshall said...

"false teacher" is more fitting for someone who is making effort to teach what is false (error)? Not everyone is active teaching. Even so, there are many false teachers gone out into the world. The word "daemon" from the New Testament frame is a teacher who brings a student to be obsessing.
Mormonism, new age, individualism, and many other religious-philosophical ideas make regular practice to interweave with the expression and council of Christ. We may prefer to think of various belief systems as distinct, while syncretism remains a prevalent mode --- largely due to the RCCs centuries-old invitations to it.

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