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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Wednesday, November 23, 2005


Ministries like mine and other discernment ministries often come under fire saying we don't love and are to harsh. I heard a lot of this after posting the Paul Proctor article about Kyle Lake.
Again though Emergents view love differently than the way the Bible views love.
Why because Emergent view love the way our culture in America views love.
Not the way God views love.
They confuse tolerance with love.
Lets look at scripture.
1 Corinthians 13:4 "Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks not evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in truth."

No where does it state here that we have to tolerate sinful behavior. But of course Emergents would disagree with that.
I'm a parent of four children. Two boys two girls.
Sometimes I have to make some unpopular choices on what my kids watch, the clothes they wear, and the music they listen to.
But I do this because I love my kids.
I want to be friendly with them but not their friend.
Im their father.
That's my role and I take it very seriously.
And I know that God will judge me according to what I teach my kids.
I also take that very seriously.
Thats not to say I don't have great fun times with my kids because I do.
And Im tough on my kids because I love them and am accountable for how they are raised.
Now lets go back and compare what the fruit of the Emergent church is compared to what scripture states about love.
Verse 5 "does not behave rudely" I don't even need to expound on that one.

"does not seek its own" In the Emergent church its pretty much anything goes, they encourage to stay in the culture and be part of it. This is a immature self seeking attitude. I want my cake and eat it to. No matter if it makes a brother or sister stumble.

"is not provoked, thinks no evil"-Again I don't think I need to expound on that one.

does not rejoice in iniquity,
The Emergent church languishes in iniquity.

"but rejoices in the truth"
To the Emergent all truth is relative and they rejoice in all truth, whether its a false truth or not.

Love to the Emergent means tolerance.
And you can see where tolerance has gotten our society here in America.
Church kids going to night clubs on senior trips in foreign countries.
Runaway brides living with there future mates with a pastors blessing. If you say nothing about a sin its blessing it.
Teachers sleeping with children and getting away with it.
The f bomb being dropped in church.
Homosexuality is said to be ok even though 25 years ago psychology declared it a abnormal behavior.
The T.V. is filled with filth and sermons are preached around these shows to appease the god of culture.
And if you think it will end here you are perhaps being very naive.
We need to show the unsaved that being a Christian is not remaining who they are apart from Christ.
We need to get rid of the former self.
Being transformed by the renewing of our mind.
Crucify the sinful nature daily.

Do we still love these people?
Of course we do.
But it doesn't mean we put up with there junk and don't say anything about it.
If God had been a permissive parent He would have not had to have His Son Jesus come and die on the cross for our sins.
Everyone could have just got a free pass to heaven and Jesus would have not had to suffer on our behalf.
But Jesus did have to come and suffer on our behalf because God so loved the world.
Why not take up Gods example instead of the example of the permissive parents that have taken over our society.


Blogger Dave Norris said...

"Open rebuke is better than secret love; Faithful are the wounds of a FRIEND, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful"- Proverbs 27:5-6. This is "speaking the truth in love"- Ephesians 4:15. Happy Thanksgiving!

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