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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Friday, October 13, 2006

For the record

Matt 23:5-7
"Everything they do is for show. On their arms they wear extra wide prayer boxes with Scripture verses inside, and they wear extra long tassels on their robes.
And how they love to sit at the head table at banquets and in the most prominent seats in the synagogue!
They enjoy the attention they get on the streets, and they enjoy being called ‘Rabbi.’

As I point out error I also want to point out the own error in my own life. I have been on TBN several times on shows on JCTV (still on reruns). As well as a special geared toward Israel.
Many times this was all show choir and band parts being dubbed etc..
It sometimes was not the real thing.
So Im every bit as guilty as some are today.
I did like the attention I got from playing.
I now go to a church that just has a piano player no drums (even though I do think drums and perc are a bad thing its a ditraction to me because I watch the drummer to see if he is as good as me instead of worsghipping God).
Hey Im just being real here.
Ive played in many large churches and have looked out into the crowd.
Big bands are a distraction because people watch the band.
I remember looking out at the crowd at First B in Modesto. There was maybe 5 people out of 500 or so that was closing their eyes and really worshipping the Lord.
Everyone else was watching and digging the band.
Was it worth it for the five.
No probably not because those 5 would have worshipped the Lord not matter what was going on.
We did a disservice to the other 495.
Its been said that it is not our responsibility what the individual does when worshipping.
But if we are not pointing people toward God and worshipping Him we are not doing the people a service of ministry.
And if we take off the blinders we can truely see what music has done on the negative to the church today.
Being a centerpiece.
Which is not where it belongs.
What would happen if the megachurches just played tapes with no band to watch?
No visual?
What kind of crowds would attend?
Something to think about.
Is this all worshipping the Lord is spirit and in truth.
Think about it.
Im speaking to the visual ascpect here not the variey of styles.
And if you have ever played music and tried to just stand still-well
Thats a whole another article for another time.
Are we causing people to stumble as singers and musicians?
What do you think.

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