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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Tuesday, December 26, 2006

Follow-up to my review of Rick Warrens service on Fox news.

Its amazing to me how Rick Warren seems to think that no in Christianity besides him that is out there clothing the naked and feeding the poor. Rick almost makes you want to think that feeding the naked and clothing the poor is some new idea (based on scripture of course) that he has cooked up and its up to him to carry it out.
What a insult to the many churches throughout history that have been doing this.
The reason you may not have heard about what a church is doing if you are not a member of that particular church is they stick and adhere to this biblical principle.

Matt 6:3

"But when you do a charitable deed, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing,

This is just one verse out of many that Rick Warren ignores.
His deeds are pasted all over the TV and news articles by Rick Warren himself.
This is of course good for Ricks business of bringing people to his new religion.

Rick Warren stated in Christianity Today "I will go anywhere in the world if I'm allowed to preach the gospel without hindrance. I'd go to Iran; I'd go to Syria; I'd go to North Korea." end of quote

Think of how many Christian throughout history including the apostles who went and preached the gospel with boldness when they came up against fierce opposition and often lost their lives for preaching the true gospel of Jesus Christ.

Did Rick Warren preach the gospel to the leaders in Syria?
I havent heard one report on that.
Did Rick preach the gospel to the jews when letting them know how to let their churches become purpose driven?
Here is that answer.
from the Jewish Journel referring to Rick Warrens speech to them
"Warren managed to speak for the entire evening without once mentioning Jesus — a testament to his savvy message-tailoring."
The biggest problem is if Rick wont even preach the true message of salvation, the true message of Jesus Christ in his own church where he is perfectly safe.
Do you think he will preach something based on scripture to the very powerful leaders he comes in contact with?
Probably not in seeing what gospel he preaches at Saddleback when he knows he will get press all over the world.

Also Rick Warrens often uses quotes by both Francis Schaffer and Charles Haddon Spurgeon.
The ironic thing is that both Spurgeon and Schaffer warned us of guys like Rick Warren in their writings.
Francis Schaffer in "The Great Evangelical Disaster" which Rick is helping to fulfill (not alone of course though).
And Spurgeon warned us of guys like Rick in sermons like "Feeding Sheep or Amusing Goats."
Listen to the very first paragraph of this prophetic sermon.

"An evil is in the professed camp of the Lord, so gross in its impudence, that the most shortsighted can hardly fail to notice it during the past few years. It has developed at an abnormal rate, even for evil. It has worked like leaven until the whole lump ferments. The devil has seldom done a cleverer thing than hinting to the church that part of their mission is to provide entertainment for the people, with a view to winning them."

That pretty much sums up seeker sensitive which Rick Warren is a big part of.
No Rick Warrens preaching sounds more like Robert Schuller than Spurgeon or Schaffer (who's quotes Rick throws into his sermons at a attempt to give credence to his preaching , when in fact its just contradiction).

Is the problem Rick Warren really?
The problem is the masses of his followers.
This again is a fulfillment of scripture which states.
"2 Timothy 4:3-4 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers.
and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables."

So in summation we can point out error in teaching, such as Rick Warren, Benny Hinn, Ken Copeland, Paul Yonggi Cho etc..
We can point out that Rick promotes contemplative spirituality, occult teachers like Paul Yonggi Cho, and Rick Warren is in fact starting a new religion.

But the problem is not so much the teachers but the people who have discarded being faithful Bereans and now just want their ears tickled.
The real problem lies with thecongregations and followers.

2 Thess 2:10-11
"and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,


Anonymous Susan said...

Amen, and Amen!

12:19 PM  

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