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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Sunday, November 25, 2012

Con men and women,false teachers fill the Body of Christ with their lie's and false teaching Part Two

The best way to tell the truth from a lie is to of course study the real deal.
These days we do tend to perhaps dwell to much on all the false stuff going around in Christianity instead of dwelling on the truth.
First one needs to understand what the true gospel is before seeking to expose the false.

A few have even taken the absurd position that a born-again person may ultimately turn away from Christ into unbelief, deny God, and become an atheist--yet still possess eternal life. One writer invented a term for such people: "unbelieving believers"!
Scripture is clear that a saved person can never be lost. It is equally clear that a genuine Christian will never fall back into total unbelief. That kind of apostasy proves an individual was never really born again (1 John 2:19).

Furthermore, if a person is genuinely saved, his life will change for the better (2 Corinthians 5:17). He is saved "for good works" (Ephesians 2:10), and there is no way he can fail to bring forth at least some of the fruit that characterizes the redeemed (cf. Matthew 7:17). His desires are transformed; he begins to hate sin and love righteousness. He will not be sinless, but the pattern of his life will be decreasing sin and increasing righteousness.

You need to settle these critical questions in your own heart. Study the gospel Scripture presents. Listen with discernment to every speaker you hear. Measure everything by the Word of God. Above all, make sure that the message you share with unbelievers is truly the gospel of Christ.
The true gospel is found in the following passages Romans 3:23,Romans 6:23,John 3:16,2 Corinthians 5:21,Heb 9:22, Romans 5:8, Acts 17:30 and Acts 16:30-31,John 1:12,and Romans 10:13.
Now people have changed or distorted and added to the gospel for either personal gain or some other reason.
Dan Bohi the the new latest super star currently in the Nazarene denomination which has also at large allowed the Emergent Church and other heresies into what was once known as a holiness denomination. Dan preaches...
 “So the real gospel is the miracle power, the dutumas (Greek word), and the salvation, healing, deliverance, not just being good enough to go to heaven, but be empowered enough to bring heaven to earth.” (end of quote)” This is a false gospel according to what scripture teaches ( “Take Another Drink 1/9″ on the YouTube: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVirTXTfAQA&feature=relmfu Minutes 0-2:30) http://youtu.be/NVirTXTfAQA 


The real gospel message is that salvation is by grace through faith (Rom. 6:23), not faith and something you do like baptism or faith and speaking in tongues, or faith and going to a Oneness church, etc.  True salvation is freedom from the requirement of keeping any part of the Law to get or maintain salvation.  True salvation is receiving Christ (John 1:12), being in the body of Christ, and being redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.
 If Dan believes in this gospel he is preaching he himself is not saved. I know this is a hard thought but its about time we started exposing those who are preaching a false gospel possibly helping to add hundreds if not thousands to a eternity in hell.
Now be for I start I want to say Dan Bohi is not the only one who is preaching this false gospel so you can take Dan’s name out and invert many others. My focus here is Dan but there are many others wrapped up in this grievous heresy.
Let me also say that many who follow Dan are perhaps good well meaning Christians who are wrapped up in the deception.Some are perhaps zealous for God and revival and have the very best of intentions.

Paul spoke about this in Romans 10:2 King James Version
For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.
One of the bigger problem with some of Dan’s followers is that charismatic teachers like Dan tend to  
draw a almost cult type following. 
Dan is a very large man and in the past I have been cautioned against stating anything about Dan's size. The only real reason I bring it up now is because Dan himself often in his speeches brings it up. Why?
Well Dan uses his size in a self deprecating method and in my opinion I think Dan uses this as a strategy to lower emotions and almost make the audience feel sorry for him. It makes his emotionally 
charged speaking hit home more if his audience is going ahhh.
Dan like many preachers and false teachers like Ken Copeland , Bill Johnson and a host of other false 
teachers also teach that the spiritual gifts taught in 1 Corinthians 13 have not ceased.
Funny thing is that the Pentecostal movement has only been around a little more than 100 years and that any evidence of gifts ceased after the Apostolic age.
We can see this through history but it starts with scripture.
 1 Cor 13:8-10
Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. For we know in part and we prophesy in part. 10 But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.

Now here lies the big debate does this mean that the gifts ceased at the end of the canon when the bible was finally put together? Or does this mean when Christ returns?
There lies the debate so lets look at history now.
The Pentecostal denomination has only been around for a little over 100 years and they base this on a latter day outpouring of the Holy Spirit as promised in scripture“And it shall be in the last days, God says, that I will pour forth of My Spirit upon all mankind; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams (Acts 2:17).

Clement of Rome claimed this outpouring took place starting in the early churchClement of Rome (died 100?) reminded the Corinthians that "a full outpouring of the Holy Spirit was upon you all." (Clement of Rome, First Epistle to the Corinthians, 2, ANF, I, 5)
Tongues also ceased  here is a very good article that addresses this http://www.faithfulpreaching.com/The_Gift_of_Tongues_in_the_Post_Apostolic_Church.pdf

So if tongues ceased does that mean that the other spiritual gifts of prophecy, words of knowledge and wisdom would carry on?
No because there was no need . Miracles were not common place in the Old Testament and often were tied to judgement. In the New Testament miracles exploded on the scene to show the world who Jesus and the Apostles were. This was needed because scripture waqs being written and the miracles showed that Jesus and his Apostles and the gospel writers were from God.
I think the assault today is not only on Gods Word but the true ministry of the Holy Spirit. Would the Holy Spirit use His ministry to put His stamp of approval on people like Benny Hinn and Jan and Paul Crouch as well as TBN? Making them filthy rich as they take money from biblically ignorant masses?
No of course not.
The book of Jude also states 

Jude 1:3

New King James Version (NKJV)

Contend for the Faith

Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

Does God still speak to us today through His voice like He once did to the writers of the Bible?
I once heard a person state that they knew the difference between God talking to them and their own human intuition.
Really? You know that for sure. You may think you know that for sure and even though God would never contradict His word its the Holy Spirits ministry to lead us into all truth. Here is a very good sermon on that http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0050.htm

So instead of letting your own(even your own well meaning passion and love for God) let you tell you the voices in your head are God. Why not just trust in Gods Word.
Everything is already there to lead you into all truth.
Here is what a pastor stated about Dan Bohi. "

Over a year ago while I was in prayer I heard God say invite Dan Bohi or actually what I heard was "It's time for Dan to come."  I didn't hesitate to invite him after witnessing the impact of Dan's ministry personally in different parts of the country and then after having him come to my church for revival in years past. 


Lets examine that statement. First the pastor was not sure exactly what God said because his statement conflicts what was said (2 different commands). And the pastor also stated he invited Dan after seeing what Dan did around the country. If that was what God truly why did the pastor need proof of what Dan was doing? Wouldn't God have already been aware of Dans ministry if He was truly in it.
Im just using Dan as an example here. This happens all over the world with other false teachers like Ken Copeland, Benny Hinn and many others from the TBN gang.
Scripture does state that 

Revelation 22:18-19

New King James Version (NKJV)

A Warning

18 For[a] I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add[b] to him the plagues that are written in this book; 19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away[c] his part from the Book[d] of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
God did not give us 20-30 blank pages at the end of the Bible to put what God spoke to us. And when God speaks its always revelation. That makes it equal to what is written in scripture. If it is not equal to scripture it is substandard revelation. And God does not utter sub standard revelation. It may be nice and comforting to think that God is personally speaking to us in audible tones. But the fact is God can speak to us everyday through Hid Word if you read it. Trust in the Holy Spirit to bring you what you need.

On healing some would say well God healed me.
Well as much as we should thank God for healing in our lives (and Im 6 years cancer free). It just means God is not finished with us on this earth yet so He allows our lives to be extended.
Yes thank Him everyday you wake up breathing air.
And then go out and share the true gospel of Jesus Christ with a lost and dying world.

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