Will The Real Blasphemers Please Stand Up? by Sandy Simpson, 6/6/01

Will The Real Blasphemers Please Stand Up?
by Sandy Simpson, 6/6/01

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This subject is one so serious that I do it with great fear and trepidation. Nonetheless, because I get so many e-mails accusing me and other Bereans of blasphemy, among other serious charges, I felt it was necessary to clear up some issues on this topic. Because of my stand for the truth of God's Word juxtaposed against all the false teaching that is going on today, I think it is important to do a quick study on what blasphemy is actually all about from a biblical standpoint.  There are many references to blasphemy in the Bible and from them we can find out how and why that term was used.
You will see that the word "blasphemy" in the Scriptures is the very definition of what the false teachers and false prophets are doing today!
Blasphemy in the Scriptures is defined and exemplified by the following verses:

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1Ti 1:20   Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
(1) Those who do not hold on to faith and a good conscience are blasphemers.
Look at verse 19 also.  The false teachers of the Third Wave today have not held on to the faith given to us by Christ and the Apostles, but have instead sailed into the extra biblical uncharted waters of new revelation and heresy.  They have allowed their consciences to be seared by both accepting and teaching that (1) there is new revelation that is "beyond what is written" and (2) Christians should not judge, discern or test the spirits.  They are blasphemers by biblical definition, just as Hymenaeus and Alexander were.

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2Pe 2:12   But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
(2) Those who bring slanderous accusations against demonic beings are blasphemers.
If you tune into just about any broadcast on TBN you will find false teachers bringing railing accusations and poking fun at demonic beings.  Yet even Michael did not dare to bring an accusation against the devil but said "The Lord rebuke you".  This new modern big talk about "binding Satan" etc. are boasts by those who don't have a clear understanding of the enemy.  If they did they would realize that their swelling words do not frighten demons. Only a true relationship with Jesus Christ brings rebuke to the enemy.

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Joh 10:33   "We are not stoning you for any of these," replied the Jews, "but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God."
(3) Those who claim to be God are blasphemers.
The only man who could rightly claim to be God was Jesus Christ.  The rest of us are not God.  How many times has Benny Hinn or Kenneth Copeland claimed to be "a little god", a "messiah", and even "I Am"?  Just recently on 6/4/01 Rex Humbard called Benny Hinn "The Anointed One" of this generation.  Jesus Christ is the only Anointed One, there is no other.  These men are blasphemers!

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1Ti 1:13   Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief.
(4) Those who persecute true Christians are blasphemers.
Third Wave teachers are well documented as having cursed anyone who disagrees with them.  Both Paul Crouch and Benny Hinn have done this very publicly, but it has also been done by many others.  There is a militant part of the Third Wave and New Apostolic Reformation that is calling for "war" against those who disagree with them.  They send out e-mails to threaten discernment ministries with lawsuits. They call us "devils", "demons", "without the Holy Spirit", "heresy hunters" and practically every other name in the book simply because we are trying to help people to wake up to the false doctrines they preach, and to rebuke them, praying that they will repent.  We are not the ones persecuting them, even though many of them have demonstrated they are not even true believers.  But even if they have made themselves our enemies we continue to pray for them, we do not curse.  It is interesting that those who do not want to be judged are the ones who often are the most judgmental.  When we provide chapter and verse in quotes taken from tapes, messages, articles and books so that people can discern the truth, they come back with personal accusations that have no basis in fact, no citations made, just persecution.  That is not discernment, nor is it Christian behavior.  It is blasphemy.

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Nu 15:30   But anyone who sins defiantly, whether native-born or alien, blasphemes the LORD, and that person must be cut off from his people.
(5) Those who defiantly sin are blasphemers.
I have never seen such defiance as I have seen in many Third Wave false teachers and false prophets.  When confronted with their departures from sound doctrine they not only ignore the truth plainly presented, but they defiantly make up even more fantastic myths, and teach worse and worse heresies.  They continue to raise money off the backs of the poor with the promise of blessings from God.  They continue to make false prophesies, ordering people to obey them in the name of the Lord. When they are proven wrong they simply excuse themselves on the basis that they "made a mistake".  When they do these things the Bible says they are blasphemers.

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Isa 52:5   "And now what do I have here?" declares the LORD. "For my people have been taken away for nothing, and those who rule them mock," declares the LORD. "And all day long my name is constantly blasphemed.
(6) Those who rule and mock are blasphemers.  Because of them God's people are taken away.
The term "heavy shepherding" has become way too tame a description for what we see happening today in the Third Wave.  Brownsville AoG, YWAM and many other Third Wave organizations are taught that if you even bring up a question or problem you have with a leader in the organization, you are not only wrong to do so but probably have a demon that needs to be exorcised.  This is well documented.  Third Wave leaders rule by letting their followers know, in no uncertain terms, that they are the "anointed holy men of God" and that they have complete power over the lives of their people.  They reinforce this idea constantly, not only by "slain in the spirit" but by bringing other "anointed" leaders on their TV programs and having them bow and grovel at their feet.  They trap people by telling them they will be healed if they just have enough faith to give a "seed" gift.  If they give, they are asked to give more.  If they don't give they are accused of having a lack of faith.  And so they are drawn into the Third Wave and spiritual imprisonment by tactics that would have been termed "cultic" even a few years ago.  They mock those who are against them, as well as demonic powers.  They mock God by treating Him like He is their glorified "butler in the sky" just waiting to fulfill their every need and want.  They shout at God, ordering Him to do their bidding while throwing Him around the room and pressing Him into each other's foreheads.  Blasphemy!

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Eze 20:27   Therefore, son of man, speak to the people of Israel and say to them, `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: 'In this also your fathers blasphemed me by forsaking me:'
(7) Those who forsake God are blasphemers.
Third Wave teachers forsook God when they forsook His Word.  The Bible is no longer studied or taught exegetically, but used as some kind of Quiji board.  A verse here and there is wrenched out of its context to prove an idea that came into their mind one day in a dream or vision.  Old Testament promises to Israel are freely applied to any Gentile circumstance in any way shape and form.  Those who forsake God's Word forsake God.

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Ro 2:24   As it is written: "God's name is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you."
(8) Those who teach we are still under the Law are blasphemers.
We all know that religions such as Catholicism, Mormonism, SDA, Jehovah's Witness and virtually all other cults bring people back under slavery to the Law.  They are the modern day version of Judaizers. But the Third Wave teachers are doing the same thing.  It is interesting to see those who claim the most spiritual freedom are those who are also tied up in legalism.  Some of the most legalistic churches are those on either side of the Protestant divide, namely hyper-Fundamentalists and hyper-Pentecostals.  Whenever you see a departure from sound doctrine, you also see the void left by it filled with legalism.  Anyone who adds anything at all to salvation by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone is a blasphemer.

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Mt 12:31   And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
(9) Those who blaspheme against the Holy Spirit.
Now we come to the most serious blasphemy, one which is unforgivable, namely the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.  What is it?  Commenting on Matt. 12:31, John Gill states: "but it is a despiteful usage of the spirit of grace, an opposing, contradicting, and denying the operations wrought, or doctrines revealed by him, against a man's own light and conscience, out of wilful and obstinate malice, on purpose to lessen the glory of God, and gratify his own lusts: such was the sin of the Scribes and Pharisees; who, though they knew the miracles of Christ were wrought by the spirit of God, yet maliciously and obstinately imputed them to the devil, with a view to obscure the glory of Christ, and indulge their own wicked passions and resentments against him; which sin was unpardonable at that present time, as well as under that dispensation then to come, when the spirit of God was poured down in a more plenteous manner."
The punishment for blasphemy was physical death in the Old Testament (Lev. 24:16), but it is also and still today a sin that is unforgivable, thus ending in spiritual death.  The blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is a complete denial of grace, opposition to those things accomplished through grace, the doctrines of grace, the lessening of the glory due Jesus Christ, the continual gratification of carnal lusts, and the attributing to Satan those works done through grace by those saved by grace.  Often we find Third Wavers charging those who oppose the clearly occult methods and manifestations at their meetings with blasphemy.  But this is exactly the opposite.  If they were truly teaching sound doctrine and following the Scriptures they would be correct.  But instead they are the ones who deny grace because they add a "second blessing", "tongues" and even "slain in the spirit" as a requirement to be truly "anointed".  The Bible teaches that those who are true believers automatically and immediately share in the anointing of The Anointed One, Jesus Christ, by virtue of their faith in His grace.  There is no other way.  Third Wave teachers continually and deceitfully use the appearance of "grace" to get themselves followers while denying the true operation of the Holy Spirit, having substituted it for another spirit.  They lessen the glory of God by getting glory to themselves, as well as making God the "high priest of their words".  They attribute slain in the spirit manifestations to God when they are clearly from another source. They downplay miracles of God apart from their assemblies and their antics.  They continually indulge themselves in their flesh while teaching a whole generation of Christians to do the same.
We all need to be careful not to blaspheme the Holy Spirit.  To avoid this unforgivable sin we must first accept the grace of Christ for salvation, then He is to be the Lord of our life in everything.  That means we are not to "go beyond what is written", to remain in sound doctrine, and to give God ALL the glory, not just a portion of it.

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New Series on the Holy Ghost movie, False signs and wonders and much more

False signs and wonders series on Bill Johnson, Holy Ghost movie, Heidi Baker, Ken Copeland , Beth Moore, Dan Bohi. and a ton of biblically solid information.

False Signs and Wonders Series.

More On the Signs and Wonders Crowd/They are coming out of the woodwork

 Satan uses his supernatural “lying wonders and signs” to trap men into following him, while the Lord uses His miracles to lead men in a righteous path to follow Him. From the above verse, we see that men can be deceived into believing a lie if they are deceived into accepting lying signs and wonders. The Church is experiencing a lot of miracles at this time, but along with the true miracles of God there are also false gifts of power, signs and lying wonders, that are not of God. How do we discern the difference so that we do not get caught up in something that is not of God which could lead us into error?

 As Christians we cannot receive nor accept all miracles, signs and wonders just because the word “God or the Bible” is attributed as to being the source of those things. The Bible tells us in 1 Thessalonians 5:21: “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”

 What should our role as Christians be in regard to acceptance of a sign, miracle or wonder? We are told to prove all things, not to reject them because they might be strange or new to us. However, we should not receive them either, until we first prove them. How do we prove things? All true Christians are in agreement that our standard is the Word of God, the Bible. God left us this Book as a reference, standard, or gauge so we could know whether something is good or evil, truth or error, right or wrong. “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works” (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
Here are some questions we need to ask when proving things. Does the sign, miracle or wonder line up with the Word of God? Is God receiving the glory for this miracle or is a man or woman being exalted? Can you picture Christ performing this miracle? Does the miracle draw attention to Christ or to the man performing the miracle? Does this wonder cause you love and worship God more? What is the purpose for this miracle? The Lord does not perform miracles just to exhibit His power to men. He does them for specific purposes and reasons.
This is demonstrated by the account of Jesus’ temptation of the devil to perform a supernatural feat so people would know He was God’s son. Look at Matthew 4:5-7, “Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.”
Here, Jesus refused to do a miracle just to demonstrate He had power. He called this tempting God. God displays His power, signs, wonders and miracles for His purposes. Here are some of the reasons and purposes in the Bible where the Lord demonstrates His signs, miracles or wonders. The miracles listed in the Bible are far few than all the miracle workers we have around today so it seems to me this is not the norm.
One reason some people move too quickly to accept the things they believe to be God is that they are fearful of disobeying Him, and thereby angering Him. They do not yet understand the loving and patient nature of our Father. The Lord never minds us testing or trying things to see if He is in them. It is only when we put God on trial that we do wrong. If we come to Him with a humble and sincere heart, wanting to know the answer to an honest question, He is more than willing to reveal to us the truth about the matter. The only time we will not get an answer from God is when we approach Him rebelliously, demanding an answer from Him.
Many Christians are hesitant about proving or testing things as they tend to categorize this right along with “judging,” and they have been taught they are to judge no man. Most of us are familiar with the Scripture in Matthew 7:1 that says, “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” If we look at only this one verse, and we are trying to judge a situation, we will feel guilty about making an evaluation. However, we should look at all the other Scriptures related to this one, so we know how we are to judge. Let us continue to read the rest of this Scripture:

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye. Matthew 7:2-5

Examining all these Scriptures, we see that Jesus is not saying we are not to judge, but rather how we are to judge. We are to judge mercifully and according to the Word of God. We need to humbly submit the thing in question to the Lord and ask Him to show us if it is of Him or if the sign or wonder is from the devil. We need to go to the Word of God and seek the answer in the Bible. If the sign is from Him it will bear witness to our spirit, we who have the Spirit of Truth within us will be able to witness to and hear that truth. If we are uncomfortable about a sign, miracle or wonder, this could be the Holy Spirit warning us to test this thing. If a service is reduced to a circus atmosphere with weird things that don’t agree with God’s nature, His gifts and His Word, it simply isn’t our Lord. Some things just don’t pass the test. 1 Corinthians 14:40 says “Let all things be done decently and in order.”

So we see another thing very much like the FIRE schools being promoted by Dan Bohi.

Another signs and wonders outfit with Nazarene endorsements. Notice on their about page this.
Power & Love Ministries was birthed out of the vision to see the Church of Jesus Christ catch hold of its inheritance to win the lost, as Paul says, “in demonstration of the Spirit and of power” (I Cor 2:4 NAS).
Why Schools of Power & Love?
It is time for the church of Jesus Christ to “come out of the closet!” We have the best kept secret of signs, wonders and miracles but until recently, they have been accessible only to those who might venture into one of our meetings! We believe that this is the season for Christians to demonstrate the gifts of prophecy, word of knowledge, and healing IN THE WORLD! We won’t be “arguing people into the kingdom” anymore…we will be demonstrating the love of God through revelation and power!

The plan is to hold Schools of Power & Love in cities across the US designed to empower you in the gifts of prophecy and healing as a lifestyle! These gifted teachers will not only give you a wonderful new understanding of power evangelism but then you will be “activated” as you “do the stuff” of the kingdom!

Why is NOW the time for Power Evangelism?

I traveled with Randy Clark and Global Awakening nationally and internationally from 2000 to 2007. During that time, we saw tremendous and numerous miracles in every country we visited. We took thousands of Christians from the US along with us on these international trips, trained them, and then watched them grow leaps and bounds as the Lord flowed through them resulting in tens of thousands of healings!
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Notice the key words "We have the best kept secret of signs,wonders and miracles but until recently,they have been accessible only to those who might venture into our meetings." end quote
Notice only they have the secret, they have the power. What an insult to plenty of Spirit filled Christians
Wow the Holy Spirit needs a piggyback ride to your church and you need to go get him from these guys? Trust me thats not the Holy Spirit and what you will get is signs and wonders but those of the lying kind.

Second quote
"These gifted teachers will not only give you a wonderful new understanding of power evangelism but then you will be "activated" as you "do the stuff" of the kingdom. end quote

My comments

Notice you need them to activate you so you can do the stuff. This is all very similar to the FIRE schools now be promoted by Dan Bohi.
Yes we all are leaky vessels which need the filling of the Holy Spirit possibly daily. But this bunch notice is selling a NEW thing. What scriptures teaches is not new and they would have you believe that we are not operating on full power because a lot of stuff like shaking , people jerking like people who have epilepsy, people laughing uncontrollably, and being being slain by some spirit or frozen where they cant move.
This is a familiar spirit not the true Holy Spirit of scripture.
Reader Beware

http://powerandlove.org/about/endorsements/


additional resource Betty Miller 

Not The Kind Of Fire You Would Want

You Probably dont want the kind of FIRE advertised by folks like Dan Bohi and various FIRE schools.
Dont take my word for it lets just explore the fire the above folks are talking about giving you in a biblical context from scripture
A verse commonly taken out of context


Matthew 3:11-12

New King James Version (NKJV)



11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.[a] 12 His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.”

Also Luke 3:16-17



Luke 3:16-17

New King James Version (NKJV)



16 John answered, saying to all, “I indeed baptize you with water; but One mightier than I is coming, whose sandal strap I am not worthy to loose. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. 17 His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather the wheat into His barn; but the chaff He will burn with unquenchable fire.”



And yes I get it that the Holy Spirit appeared like tongues of fire over the heads of believers at Pentecost. But lets examine these verses and there context.



John the Baptist states He (Jesus) will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire.

John does not state Holy Spirit fire. But seperates the two Holy Spirit and fire.

We need to look at the next verse to see the context which John was speaking in.

He states Jesus will gather His wheat into the barn (saved people) but He (Jesus) will burn up the chaff (unsaved people not sin in this context but unrepentant sinners) He with unquenchable fire (the fires of hell). You for sure do not want this type of fire.

How does Jesus describle the Holy Spirit look at John 14

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.



18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.



19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.



20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.



21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.



22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world?



23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.



24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.



25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.



26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.



Then in John 16 Jesus shows the work of the Holy Spirit



The Work of the Holy Spirit

5 “But now I go away to Him who sent Me, and none of you asks Me, ‘Where are You going?’ 6 But because I have said these things to you, sorrow has filled your heart. 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.



12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 15 All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.[c]



Again not any fire in Jesus's description of the Holy Spirit

Probably a good reason to stay away from FIRE school
The fire they are advertising refers more to what Smith Wiggleworth taught and here is a seperate article refuting Wigglesworth unscriptural take on fire.

http://www.bereanresearchinstitute.com/03_Doctrines/D.0005_01_Wigglesworth_1_of_6_Pentecostal_Baptism_of_Fire.html

FIRE School-Spiritual Gifts For Sale-Only $65.00 Per Person

Acts 8:18-21


New King James Version (NKJV)
18 And when Simon saw that through the laying on of the apostles’ hands the Holy Spirit was given, he offered them money, 19 saying, “Give me this power also, that anyone on whom I lay hands may receive the Holy Spirit.”
20 But Peter said to him, “Your money perish with you, because you thought that the gift of God could be purchased with money! 21 You have neither part nor portion in this matter, for your heart is not right in the sight of God.

Acts 13:8-11


New King James Version (NKJV)
8 But Elymas the sorcerer (for so his name is translated) withstood them, seeking to turn the proconsul away from the faith. 9 Then Saul, who also is called Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, looked intently at him 10 and said, “O full of all deceit and all fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease perverting the straight ways of the Lord? 11 And now, indeed, the hand of the Lord is upon you, and you shall be blind, not seeing the sun for a time.”
And immediately a dark mist fell on him, and he went around seeking someone to lead him by the hand.

Now the argument could and probably would be made that Simons heart was not right that was his problem so someone with a right heart would be ok paying for spiritual gifts.
Well lets see what church history says as well as the obvious point of scripture that spiritual gifts are not for sale and can not be taught. Also some may bring up that workers are worth being paid but this FIRE school is about selling spiritual gifts and selling false revival to your church at an even heaftier price than the initial $65.00 per person.

Simony- (pron. [ˈsaɪ.mə.ni] or [ˈsɪ.mə.ni]) is the act of paying to receive sacraments, including those for ordination to a holy office or other position in the hierarchy of a church. The practice is named after Simon Magus, who is described in the Acts of the Apostles 8:9-24 as having offered two disciples of Jesus, Peter and John, payment in exchange for their empowering him to impart the power of the Holy Spirit to anyone on whom he would place his hands. This is the origin of the term simony;but it also extends to other forms of trafficking for money in "spiritual things".



The FIRE School people who are promoting Dan Bohi at these meetings and classes quote Phenius Bresee at the bottom of their banner saying ""We must have new Pentecosts; manifestations which will shake the place where we are assembled and shake the hearts of men..."  No where on Google or Bing could I find this quote attributed to Bresee no where to be found at all .

Phineas Bresse did say concerning Azuza Street
"Some months ago, among some of the colored people in this city, reinforced after a little with some whites, there began something which was called the “gift of tongues.” The meetings were held in a large rented building on Azusa Street. The professed gift of tongues was not the only peculiarity of the meetings, but much physical exercise of various kinds, with laying on of hands. The meetings attracted some attention, especially among that class of people who are always seeking for some new thing. "

When Bresee referred to physical exercise of various kinds with laying on of hands. He was referring to manifestations not of the Holy Spirit such as slain in the spirit and the other weird manifestations at Azuza Street.
Bresee took the denomination away from this.
Now Dan Bohi and FIRE Schools are trying to bring them back to what history shows Bresee rejected.

Phineas Bresse also stated
"but what little influence it has had seems to have been mostly harmful, instead of beneficent. It seems not only to have had at least some of the elements of fanaticism, but to be trying to inculcate such erroneous or heretical doctrines as mark it as not of the Spirit of Truth. The two principal things which are emphasized, and wherein they claim to differ from others, is, that Christians are sanctified before they receive the baptism with the Holy Ghost, this baptism being a gift of power upon the sanctified life, and that the essential and necessary evidence of the baptism is the gift of speaking with new tongues.
As far as has come under our own observation, or that we have seen experted by competent examination, the speaking with tongues has been a “no-thing,” a jargon, a senseless mumble, without meaning to those who do the mumbling, or to those who hear. Where in a few instances the speaker or some other one has attempted to interpret, it has usually been a poor mess.

It would be doing the few poor people who have been deluded by this thing no wrong to say that among clearheaded, faithful, reliable Christian people of this city the thing has no standing.

We are surprised at reputable papers giving credence to the almost unthinkably extravagant utterances in reference to such a matter before attempting to know whether there was anything to it or not. "

source  http://www.azusastreet.org/AzusaStreetBresee.htm

I have heard that Dan has been asked not to do certain things in certain Nazarene churches.
But can the true Holy Spirit be turned on and off like some water faucet?
For shure not because He is fully God and is not something conjured up or not by man at his whim and bidding.
Keep in mind Dan Bohi has stated Jesus is speaking new truth to him.
Also here was our interaction from someone who has been prepped and controlled by these people who are selling spiritual gifts for money.

The following is why I quoted the above verse that shows someone was struck blind. Many people are now being struck by spiritual blindness.

Manny and I had a very interesting conversation with a young lady and Rob McCorkle left before we had a chance to speak with him. I'm going to write a more detailed article on this Sat. The jest of it was I tried to ask this young lady where she found these manifestations I scripture. She said people fell forward. I said exactly only Jesus's enemies fell backward when they came to arrest Him. This girl was really trying to control the conversation often cutting off me and Manny trying to not let us speak. Manny bought up that no preacher is above scrutiny.

Than on that I went into what Dan preached giving exact quotes and I asked her if she thought the teaching matched up to scripture. I also pointed out where Dan actually stated he didn't like the definition of faith expressed in the book of Hebrews and than gave his own definition of faith outside of scripture by way of revelation knowledge I guess. Then things got ugly quick. She stated she knows the Holy Spirit and almost implied I wasn't saved. She said she fell to her knees and her arms were so heavy she could not move her arms. We questioned her experience and Manny asked her if she could be deceived. She stated no way because she knows the way the holy Spirit moves. I asked her where is this found in scripture. She could not answer. Than an older lady came by and stated she never believed in the stuff either until she went and was bought to her knees feeling a heavyness and was actually paralzed and could not move either. I asked again where is this expereince in scripture. I asked the young lady again about Dans teaching and how the Nazarene founder distanced himself from Azuza street and its manifestations.

She than informed us we are not to question the annointed. I explained to her that if you are saved you are annointed by the Holy Spirit for service. She than stated "I'm done here and I want you both to leave this area right now". Even though her young man counterpart wanted to talk more. I actually apoligized to her for upsetting her. She said "leave now". I can tell you this whole encounter was not cult like, it was plain cultish. This is what leaders like Bohi get, a cult following. I also had a nice and civil conversation with a female evangelist who I know and love dearly. It was difficult to get anything out of my mouth but I told her the Hebrews definition of faith by Bohi. And she said she disagreed with that. I told her about Bill Johnson but she said Dan told her he only watched him a little on tv and wrote down one thing he thought was good. So where is Dans responsibility to not expose people to false teachers.

Than I tried to give her a copy of Mannys article on Bohi which she refused to look at. Shw was nice and we are still friends but look at this cult type adoration of Bohi. People not willing to be faithful Bereans and check to see if what's taught and going on is true in scriptures. Something that would stop you from checking scripture because they state they don't want to limit God I quarentee you that spirit is not of God. Folks the following the church back to Rome is here. Emergent is dug in and not even an issue anymore because its in to deep.
 Plus the false revival and signs and wonders movement is here and not going anywhere as well. And things with Bohis revivals are mild now compared to what they will get to once people are used to the false manifestations. This is conditioning by the enemy. And trust me as people buy in more and more will be served out as they want more and more. I've seen it before. People forget I was freed out of this movement.

A must see video. You need to take the time to watch this.

Probably the best resource I have ever watched. It focus's on Rick Warren but ties everything together. Seeker sensitive, mega Church, Emergent Church, New Apostolic Reformation everything. Its 2 hours you really need to watch this.

Con men and women,false teachers fill the Body of Christ with their lie's and false teaching Part Two

The best way to tell the truth from a lie is to of course study the real deal.
These days we do tend to perhaps dwell to much on all the false stuff going around in Christianity instead of dwelling on the truth.
First one needs to understand what the true gospel is before seeking to expose the false.

A few have even taken the absurd position that a born-again person may ultimately turn away from Christ into unbelief, deny God, and become an atheist--yet still possess eternal life. One writer invented a term for such people: "unbelieving believers"!

Scripture is clear that a saved person can never be lost. It is equally clear that a genuine Christian will never fall back into total unbelief. That kind of apostasy proves an individual was never really born again (1 John 2:19).

Furthermore, if a person is genuinely saved, his life will change for the better (2 Corinthians 5:17). He is saved "for good works" (Ephesians 2:10), and there is no way he can fail to bring forth at least some of the fruit that characterizes the redeemed (cf. Matthew 7:17). His desires are transformed; he begins to hate sin and love righteousness. He will not be sinless, but the pattern of his life will be decreasing sin and increasing righteousness.

You need to settle these critical questions in your own heart. Study the gospel Scripture presents. Listen with discernment to every speaker you hear. Measure everything by the Word of God. Above all, make sure that the message you share with unbelievers is truly the gospel of Christ.

The true gospel is found in the following passages Romans 3:23,Romans 6:23,John 3:16,2 Corinthians 5:21,Heb 9:22, Romans 5:8, Acts 17:30 and Acts 16:30-31,John 1:12,and Romans 10:13.

Now people have changed or distorted and added to the gospel for either personal gain or some other reason.

Dan Bohi the the new latest super star currently in the Nazarene denomination which has also at large allowed the Emergent Church and other heresies into what was once known as a holiness denomination. Dan preaches...

 “So the real gospel is the miracle power, the dutumas (Greek word), and the salvation, healing, deliverance, not just being good enough to go to heaven, but be empowered enough to bring heaven to earth.” (end of quote)” This is a false gospel according to what scripture teaches ( “Take Another Drink 1/9″ on the YouTube: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVirTXTfAQA&feature=relmfu Minutes 0-2:30) http://youtu.be/NVirTXTfAQA 

The real gospel message is that salvation is by grace through faith (Rom. 6:23), not faith and something you do like baptism or faith and speaking in tongues, or faith and going to a Oneness church, etc.  True salvation is freedom from the requirement of keeping any part of the Law to get or maintain salvation.  True salvation is receiving Christ (John 1:12), being in the body of Christ, and being redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.

 If Dan believes in this gospel he is preaching he himself is not saved. I know this is a hard thought but its about time we started exposing those who are preaching a false gospel possibly helping to add hundreds if not thousands to a eternity in hell.

Now be for I start I want to say Dan Bohi is not the only one who is preaching this false gospel so you can take Dan’s name out and invert many others. My focus here is Dan but there are many others wrapped up in this grievous heresy.

Let me also say that many who follow Dan are perhaps good well meaning Christians who are wrapped up in the deception.Some are perhaps zealous for God and revival and have the very best of intentions.

Paul spoke about this in Romans 10:2 King James Version

² For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge.

One of the bigger problem with some of Dan’s followers is that charismatic teachers like Dan tend to  

draw a almost cult type following. 

Dan is a very large man and in the past I have been cautioned against stating anything about Dan's size. The only real reason I bring it up now is because Dan himself often in his speeches brings it up. Why?

Well Dan uses his size in a self deprecating method and in my opinion I think Dan uses this as a strategy to lower emotions and almost make the audience feel sorry for him. It makes his emotionally 

charged speaking hit home more if his audience is going ahhh.

Dan like many preachers and false teachers like Ken Copeland , Bill Johnson and a host of other false 

teachers also teach that the spiritual gifts taught in 1 Corinthians 13 have not ceased.

Funny thing is that the Pentecostal movement has only been around a little more than 100 years and that any evidence of gifts ceased after the Apostolic age.

We can see this through history but it starts with scripture.

 1 Cor 13:8-10

⁸ Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away. ⁹ For we know in part and we prophesy in part. ¹⁰ But when that which is perfect has come, then that which is in part will be done away.
Now here lies the big debate does this mean that the gifts ceased at the end of the canon when the bible was finally put together? Or does this mean when Christ returns?
There lies the debate so lets look at history now.
The Pentecostal denomination has only been around for a little over 100 years and they base this on a latter day outpouring of the Holy Spirit as promised in scripture“And it shall be in the last days, God says, that I will pour forth of My Spirit upon all mankind; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams (Acts 2:17).

Clement of Rome claimed this outpouring took place starting in the early churchClement of Rome (died 100?) reminded the Corinthians that "a full outpouring of the Holy Spirit was upon you all." (Clement of Rome, First Epistle to the Corinthians, 2, ANF, I, 5)
Tongues also ceased  here is a very good article that addresses this http://www.faithfulpreaching.com/The_Gift_of_Tongues_in_the_Post_Apostolic_Church.pdf

So if tongues ceased does that mean that the other spiritual gifts of prophecy, words of knowledge and wisdom would carry on?
No because there was no need . Miracles were not common place in the Old Testament and often were tied to judgement. In the New Testament miracles exploded on the scene to show the world who Jesus and the Apostles were. This was needed because scripture waqs being written and the miracles showed that Jesus and his Apostles and the gospel writers were from God.
I think the assault today is not only on Gods Word but the true ministry of the Holy Spirit. Would the Holy Spirit use His ministry to put His stamp of approval on people like Benny Hinn and Jan and Paul Crouch as well as TBN? Making them filthy rich as they take money from biblically ignorant masses?
No of course not.
The book of Jude also states 

Jude 1:3

New King James Version (NKJV)

Contend for the Faith

³ Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints.

Does God still speak to us today through His voice like He once did to the writers of the Bible?
I once heard a person state that they knew the difference between God talking to them and their own human intuition.
Really? You know that for sure. You may think you know that for sure and even though God would never contradict His word its the Holy Spirits ministry to lead us into all truth. Here is a very good sermon on that http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0050.htm

So instead of letting your own(even your own well meaning passion and love for God) let you tell you the voices in your head are God. Why not just trust in Gods Word.
Everything is already there to lead you into all truth.
Here is what a pastor stated about Dan Bohi. "

Over a year ago while I was in prayer I heard God say invite Dan Bohi or actually what I heard was "It's time for Dan to come."  I didn't hesitate to invite him after witnessing the impact of Dan's ministry personally in different parts of the country and then after having him come to my church for revival in years past.

Lets examine that statement. First the pastor was not sure exactly what God said because his statement conflicts what was said (2 different commands). And the pastor also stated he invited Dan after seeing what Dan did around the country. If that was what God truly why did the pastor need proof of what Dan was doing? Wouldn't God have already been aware of Dans ministry if He was truly in it.

Im just using Dan as an example here. This happens all over the world with other false teachers like Ken Copeland, Benny Hinn and many others from the TBN gang.

Scripture does state that 

Revelation 22:18-19

New King James Version (NKJV)

A Warning

¹⁸ For^[a] I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things, God will add^[b] to him the plagues that are written in this book; ¹⁹ and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away^[c] his part from the Book^[d] of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

God did not give us 20-30 blank pages at the end of the Bible to put what God spoke to us. And when God speaks its always revelation. That makes it equal to what is written in scripture. If it is not equal to scripture it is substandard revelation. And God does not utter sub standard revelation. It may be nice and comforting to think that God is personally speaking to us in audible tones. But the fact is God can speak to us everyday through Hid Word if you read it. Trust in the Holy Spirit to bring you what you need.

On healing some would say well God healed me.

Well as much as we should thank God for healing in our lives (and Im 6 years cancer free). It just means God is not finished with us on this earth yet so He allows our lives to be extended.

Yes thank Him everyday you wake up breathing air.

And then go out and share the true gospel of Jesus Christ with a lost and dying world.

Con men and women,false teachers fill the Body of Christ with their lies and false teaching Part One

The groups I am part of as well as many emails I get as well as others who are leaders in these groups often ask where to find a good church because they left their last church because of heresy and false teaching. Thats a really good question. And if you turn on the television and radio these days you can plainly see that heresy and false teaching fill the pulpits today. I would say a fair guess is that out of the most popular book sales and popular television shows 98% of them preach and promote heresy.
This article is not going to be about finding a good church. In this rapid falling away from Christianity I would hesitate to suggest a church because you could not be sure that what they would be teaching in a month would be solid biblically based Christianity.
Most people would agree with the fact that we are probably in the endtimes that would soon bring the return of Christ.
Before that happens a antichrist (a person) will show up proclaiming he is Jesus himself.
How do I know this?
Scripture teaches that. 

2 Thessalonians 2:3-17

New King James Version (NKJV)

³ Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin^[a]is revealed, the son of perdition, ⁴ who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God^[b] in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.
⁵ Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? ⁶ And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. ⁷ For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He^[c] who now restrains will do so until He^[d] is taken out of the way. ⁸ And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. ⁹ The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,¹⁰ and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. ¹¹ And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, ¹² that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

It has come to the time in history where unsaved men and women who  proclaim to be Christian are filling the pulpits and deceiving many.

In Matt 24:24 it states-

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Dave Hunt and TA MaMahon of the Berean Call makes these comments

 Dave:

You mean, could a believer be a false prophet?  False Christ?  No.  I don’t think so.  I think…

           Tom:

Or could they be deceived by false prophets?

           Dave:

I think a true believer could be deceived.  But, what I think it means is, and as this writer indicates, not permanently.  In other words, you might deceive a person for a moment, but I believe that if they stick with the Word and follow the leading of the Holy Spirit, they are not going to be deceived for long.  It says, “so much that if it were possible even the elect would be deceived.”  Therefore, I don’t think it is possible, ultimately, to deceive the elect. 

           Tom:

Dave, we’ve been talking about the deception and delusion for months now just going through your book Beyond Seduction.  And, there’s so much more that’s happened since then, that seems to indicate that people have been drawn off to these false teachings and false ideas.  Maybe not false Christs, per se, but certainly anti-biblical or issues that are contrary to the Word of God.

           Dave:

Well, Jesus makes it very serious here.  And, as you know, He mentions this three times. And, this is in response to the question from the disciples, “what will be the sign of your coming and of these things?”  You know, the destruction of the temple and of the end of the world.  I think He’s talking about the nearness of His return and the very first thing, it has a list of a number of things, wars, rumors of wars, earthquakes, pestilence, famine, etc., ethnic group rising against ethnic group, which certainly is true today.  But, they come later.  The very first thing He says is, “before, or take heed, that no one deceive you.”  And, then three times He repeats it about false Christs and false prophets, warning that this is going to happen.  And, I think that we live in that day.  No doubt about it.  And, He warns, in Matthew 7, well He says, “many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name?  In your name we cast out devils.  In your name we did miracles.”  He says, “I will say, I never knew you.”  So, they were never Christians.  And, yet, apparently they passed for Christian leaders who were seemingly doing signs and wonders.  And, you know that’s big emphasis today.  Signs and wonders.  And, then Paul uses the same language in II Timothy 3:8.  He says, “As Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.”  So, he is warning us again, and in fact he begins that chapter, chapter three, “in the last days dangerous times shall come,” and it talks about loving ourselves, etc.  So, I think that this is a very serious warning from the Lord.  We have to heed it.  And, are there false prophets out there?  Definitely there are.  And I think in relation to this, Acts 20, where Paul tells the elders at Ephesus, “that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears.”  So, Paul took this so seriously that he’s warning them, he is weeping.  I often say to people, not often, but when I’m on the subject, I say, “look, some people accuse me of being a fanatic, just pounding away on error, warning about error, warning about apostasy, I haven’t even begun to be concerned compared with Paul.”  He wept and warned day and night for three solid years. 

           Tom:

Dave, there was no Christian television, no Christian radio, no Christian media, and the reason I’m bringing that up is because we’re inundated by all these false ideas through these different media.  Yet, Paul, you know, he wasn’t dealing with any of those.

           Dave:

But, he was very serious and very concerned, and perhaps then my level of concern ought to rise.  The level of concern of people out there ought to rise.  He writes to the Corinthians, you know, that he’s concerned, lest as Satan deceived Eve they should be led astray and embrace another Jesus instead of the real Jesus.  Tom, it’s happening in the church, and I think we should be concerned.  We need to pray about it and we need to stand against the error and stand for truth and rescue as many as we can.end comment

So how can we tell if its God speaking to us?

The only real way is to search what is being said with God's word.

Thats hard to do in an ever-growing world that teaches the Bible is full of error.

What parts do we believe are true?

Only those that deal with salvation?

Well for one scripture teaches that it is true.

For we did not follow cleverly devised tales when we made known to you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of His majesty (2 Peter 1:16).

1. THE BIBLE IS AN INERRANT BOOK.
If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came; and the Scripture cannot be broken (John 10:35).
What does Jesus mean when He says that the Scripture cannot be broken? It is a reference to its continuing truth. There will never come a time when we say, "Ooops, the Bible really said the wrong thing when it came to that passage." Notice that He says this with reference to what could have been considered a problem passage to the Jews (Psalm 82:6). The point is that even such problem passages show no cracks in the trustworthiness of the Bible, but rather are only indicative of our own lack of understanding.



But when He, the Spirit of truth, comes, He will guide you into all the truth; for He will not speak on His own initiative, but whatever He hears, He will speak; and He will disclose to you what is to come. 14 He shall glorify Me; for He shall take of Mine, and shall disclose it to you. (John 16:13-14).
With these words, Jesus promises that He would send the Holy Spirit who would direct the apostles in the communicating of God's new covenant teaching.

Hopefully I do not need to convince you that Gods Word is true and without error. If I need to do that please don't read any further.
And even when I write something you need to check it against God's Word. If what I write does not agree with God's Word I would encourage you to be a good Berean and reject it. But check it against Gods Word to your own intuition or something you think God is speaking in your ear since God no longer speaks to us today outside of scripture.

This sets the article up.
So can we tell if its an unsaved person preaching to us or just a conman or woman?
I would say its not difficult to tell if a person is saved or unsaved.
Scripture teaches that



Matthew 7:15-16

New King James Version (NKJV)

You Will Know Them by Their Fruits

¹⁵ “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. ¹⁶ You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
Many claim and attribute demonic activity to the work of the Holy Spirit. They did this with Brownsville, Pensacola and Toronto supposed blessings. 
This is the unpardonable sin against the Holy Spirit as noted in scripture in
Matt. 12:22-32 says, "Then there was brought to Him a demon-possessed man who was blind and dumb, and He healed him, so that the dumb man spoke and saw. ²³And all the multitudes were amazed, and began to say, "This man cannot be the Son of David, can he?" ²⁴But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, "This man casts out demons only by Beelzebub the ruler of the demons." ²⁵And knowing their thoughts He said to them, "Any kingdom divided against itself is laid waste; and any city or house divided against itself shall not stand. ²⁶"And if Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself; how then shall his kingdom stand? ²⁷"And if I by Beelzebub cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? Consequently they shall be your judges. ²⁸"But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you. ²⁹"Or how can anyone enter the strong man's house and carry off his property, unless he first binds the strong man? And then he will plunder his house. ³⁰"He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters. ³¹"Therefore I say to you, any sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but blasphemy against the Spirit shall not be forgiven.³²"And whoever shall speak a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him; but whoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, either in this age, or in the age to come,"
If you attribute the works of satan to that of the Holy Spirit you are treading on very bad ground to say the least.



No. A believer cannot commit the unforgivable sin. How can someone who has been born again (John 3:7), made a new creation (2 Cor. 5:17), and received eternal life (John 10:27-28) actually commit the unforgivable sin? He cannot. Jesus Himself said that we have eternal life, not conditional life: "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand" (John 10:27-28). Besides, it says in 2 Cor. 5:17 that the Christian is a new creation in Christ. We are different, no longer slaves to the old nature (Rom. 6:14). We are regenerated by the Holy Spirit.

There is no biblical support for a believer committing this sin. It just hasn't happened. Also, if you are worried that you may have committed the sin and can't be forgiven, then don't be concerned. If you are worrying about it, then you haven't committed it. If you are worried about it, then that is a sign that you have not committed it. If you had, you wouldn't be concerned.
If a man or woman preaches a false gospel you would think that they themselves believe what they preach.
If they believe in their own false gospel they are not saved.
So in the next article we will see what the true gospel is and what some of the false gospels are today as well as do the spiritual gifts of tongues and prophecy as well as words of wisdom and knowledge still exist today/
People claim to that God is still speaking to them today and they know the difference.
Really?
How can you be 100% sure it is God speaking in your ear.
We will explore all this in the next article.