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Former drummer for Gary Lewis and The Playboys and The Coasters. Tim has also played with Paul Baloche, Lincoln Brewster, Darlene Zscech and Hillsongs, Jeff Fenholt, SteveCamp among others. Tim founded The Simply Agape Project in 2001 to get free Christian music to the troops. Recordings have been made with Tim, and friends Alex Acuna, Abe Laboriel SR, Justo Almario,Steve Camp , Jared Ming and some wonderful Independant Christian artists.The Somebody Brave CD also features words of encouragment to the soldiers from Pastors, Moms, Dads, and Lt Col Brian Birdwell a Pentegon 9/11 survivor Tim is married to Donna Wirth and has four children Alan 25,Steven 23, Brittany 22, Bethany 21. Tim has played in numerous churchs as well as shows on TBN. Tim has also performed on JCTV on the show Generation Worship featuring worship leader Jared Ming. Tim has a book published worldwide titled "Pass The Plate And Let Us Prey" (My Search For Black and White Christianity in a Gray Nation)

Monday, May 21, 2012

Dan Bohi and his false teachings: I would suggest for this that everyone be faithful Bereans and search the scripture and balance it against what Dan is teaching.The problem with the Emergent Church coming in to the Nazarene denomination is that it was already here for sometime but no one bothered to search the scriptures to see if what was being said and taught was true. Hope we learned from that. With Dan I would suggest you start at this link on U Tube titled the two Wings of the Dove. http://youtu.be/5YqqX7MtP68 Then go to "Take Another Drink" on U Tube by Bohi. Dan promotes being drunk in the spirit at the end on 8 and 9 in this series. Then go to" Faith not maybe I am" I encourage you to watch all 9 parts of each one of the series they are only about 7-8 minutes apiece. I could barely make it through the very first 2 of "Take another drink" but I will let you decide. Within this series Dan states a boy was healed of MS as well as a lady who only had three weeks to live from cancer. I would like to see documented proof of these healings and will be contacting Dan so he can provide proof. Dan is typical of many preachers on TBN who state we can stop God by our lack of faith,sin,fear or ignorance. This is a tactic used by faith healers to explain why people dont get healed.This is more of having faith in your own faith. Dan also states he does not like the scriptural definition of faith stated in Heb 11 and then goes on to give his own definition. Dan states this i the series Faith not maybe I AM 1/9. Dan very cleverly mixes truth with error. Dan then promotes false teacher Bill Johnson in 4/12 of Faith Not maybe I am. For more on Bill Johnson go to this article http://notunlikelee.wordpress.com/2012/03/11/bill-johnsons-christology-a-new-age-christ/ Bill Johnson has claimed that angel feathers and gold dust have appeared in his church just google him for more information. Dan Bohi also distorts what scripture teaches about people seeking signs and wonders in his series "Take Another Drink" 3/9. Dan also states a lot about revelation knowledge and that he pretty much operates in all the gifts of the Spirit in the link I provided.Revelation Knowledge is God speaking to you personall outside of you reading Hid written Word. For more about Revelation Knowledge check here and listen to the podcast. http://www.echozoe.com/archives/2494 Dan Bohi has also made claims that a lot of tithers are being taken but people are not getting saved. Where do we get those numbers at? Dan just kinda throws that out there. Dan claims at one of his meetings that 200 people were filled with the Spirit and 75 people were saved. You receive the Holy Spirit at salvation so Im not sure what that is about. Sanctification is a process I know but you are filled with the Holy Spirit at the moment of your salvation. That where you start to be less so He can become more. I will continue to go into Dan in more detail in future articles. I do want to thank my brother and friend in the Lord Sandy Simpson (who was on our DVD) for publishing my article on Dan on his website Deception in the Church. His site gets over 1 million hits a month so we will continue to get the word out. But dont take my word on it. Listen to Dans series and then hold it up to the light of scripture. Keep in mind sucess and large altar calls mean nothing. Look at Benny Hinn,the Toronto Blessing Todd Bently etc.. And Dan is very much cut from the same carpet. So view the teaching read your Bibles and decide for yourself. Dan Bohi is very clever at mixing truth with deadly error and is also man centered in his teaching and preaching. PS The Holy Spirit never lost one of His wings and it is surely not up to us to allow God to work in power and glory for His great pleasure.

Friday, May 18, 2012

The Goofy World of Dan Bohi This article is from a post sent to my friend and brother Manny Silva. I have spoken about Dan Bohi and I think his teaching is dangerous and unbiblical and should be avoided. Dan is textbook Word of Faith even the title of his sermon suggests that. Dan has also compared what he does to what Benny Hinn does. I find that is actually correct on Dans part. What Dan preaches is Word of Faith and also typical Kingdom Now heresy. But I would encourage you to come to your own conclusions after review the U Tube tapes for yourself. What Dan teaches about Kingdom Now is very much in align with what is taught in the Emergent Church as well as the NAR (New Apostolic Reformation) here is some info on that organization by my friend and brother in the Lord Sandy Simpson http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/newapostolic.html Dans teaching about preaching to animals in Part two is on the level of goofiness like when Benny Hinn taught there were 9 members to the Trinity. But again I encourage you to review the U tube videos and decide for yourselves. Im often asked did you contact the guy (or gal). Well yes I have and Dan choose to answer me through his wife. Who was a very nice lady but said a lot of nothing and did not directly address my concerns, Here are the comments that were sent to Manny. On the Sunday evening of 5/6/12, I went to the Dallas church near downtown to listen to Dan Bohi’s sermon. I did not feel comfortable after I heard some of the statements he made in his preaching. This raised some red flags in my mind about him. To make sure that I am not overly dogmatic, I also took several hours to listen to Dan’s online sermon on YouTube “take another drink” (9 parts). After I listened to the sermon, I confirmed that I am not making something out of nothing. What concerned me the most is his definition of the term “sanctification”. Dan Bohi rejected the traditional interpretation of the term “sanctification” as God’s complete work of salvation in believers, making them to conformed to the image of Christ in Godliness and righteous living, to live a godly life in doing God’s will as Jesus did. Instead, according to Dan, the term “sanctification” means to be “commissioned, set apart, sanctified by God to replicate the ministry of Jesus” in the sense to work miracles in charismatic power as Jesus did. Here is the quote of the first 2 and a half minutes from his sermon “Take Another Drink 1/9″ on the YouTube: ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVirTXTfAQA&feature=relmfu Minutes 0-2:30) He (Dan) said: The problem with Protestantism is that we keep trying to prove a theory or a doctrine instead of living Jesus. … A big point when dealing with Protestant, the term “sanctification” can be shown, not to be “needs to be shown”, not just “being good”, which in Protestants equals “holiness and sanctification”, but it originally meant “ordained for priesthood”. A priest was someone who ideally inquired of God, to give God’s immediate prophetic word to the people who come consulted with him. They also involved in healing. So if you are sanctified and made holy in the biblical sense, not in the Protestants’ sense, you will be commissioned, set apart, sanctified by God to replicate the ministry of Jesus—to introduce the kingdom, the spirit of God in charismatic power, in the gift of Sprint power. So the real gospel is the miracle power, the dutumas (Greek word), and the salvation, healing, deliverance, not just being good enough to go to heaven, but be empowered enough to bring heaven to earth. But what is “living Jesus?” In the end of this sermon “Take Another Drink 7/9”, Dan Bohi gave the definition of “Living Jesus”. First Dan cited several manifestations of the “spirit” during his previous services; (one of them is this: 22 people who were depressed came to the alter, then, before Dan even lay hand on them, they just start to laughing and Dan also start laughing, then all 22 people get healed;) later, in the context of those testimonies of signs and wonders, Dan defined “Living Jesus” as follows: We need word and the Spirit; We need purity and Power; We need the fruit and the gift; We need doctrine on display; We don’t need it on the shelf; we need to “live Jesus”. (“Take Another Drink 7/9″ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDPyxD8m9RY , minutes 6:23) From all the context of the above words in the sermon, I do believe that Dan was defining “living Jesus” as the outward manifestation of signs and wonders such as miracle healing, etc. Preaching about miracle healings by itself is not wrong. After all, the Holy Spirit has more miraculous power than all false spirits. What was wrong is this: he was defining these outward manifestations of signs and wonder as “Living Jesus” and “Sanctification”. That became seriously wrong and unbiblical. That certainly violated the fundamental belief of Nazarene church. And he explicitly rejected the fundamental interpretation of the term “sanctification” by protestant tradition, which includes protestant denomination such as Nazarene. I believe the protestant’s especially the Church of Nazarene’s interpretation of the term “sanctification” is sound and correct. Sanctification IS the work of God that prepares us “to be good enough to go to heaven “, for apart from holiness, no one can see God. “10For they indeed for a few days chastened us as seemed best to them, but He for our profit, that we may be partakers of His holiness…. 14Pursue peace with all people, and holiness, without which no one will see the Lord.” (Hebrews 12:10,:14). But in Dan’s view sanctification is not about making us good enough go to heaven, but about making us empowered enough to bring heaven to earth (see the above quotes of his definition on “sanctification”). This is pretty heretical. If this was true, why then the Apostle Peter had urged Christians NOT to put their hope on earth but put their hope in heaven? 2 Peter 3 clearly taught us that our chief end is not about this present life, but about the life to come. For this current earth will be destroyed in fire, therefore we ought to look for the new heaven and the new earth where righteousness dwells, and be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless (,which in Dan’s phrase “to be good enough” to enter the eternal kingdom of heaven). 2 Peter 3:10But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. 11Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, 12looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 13Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells. 14Therefore, beloved, looking forward to these things, be diligent to be found by Him in peace, without spot and blameless; Apostle Paul in Colossians also affirmed this view: Colossians 3:1If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory. It seems that in Dan’s view, the Spirit is not in the Word, the Power is not in the purity, the display has to be some kind of outward manifestation of physicals. What kind of power was he promoting? I had to ask. I totally agree that we need to have godly power to live as Jesus lived, and that a mere head-knowledge of doctrines is not enough to ensure us to go to heaven, but to seek charismatic experience pertaining to this life is not the way to go! Another thing that concerns me is his downplaying and discouraging the preaching of the Word and ridiculing of doctrinal discernment and critical thinking. He made statement like these: “the kingdom of God is not a matter of word, but a matter of power …. it’s not preach preach preach preach…” , “I don’t think they killed Jesus because he is the good preacher, I think they killed Jesus because he did what they couldn’t do.” I consider this last statement as totally false. I believe that had Jesus only worked miracles, the Jews would not have crucified him; the Jews crucified Jesus because Jesus condemned them for their sins and preach the gospel of repentance and judgment (Luke 4:14-30). They crucified Jesus because Jesus preached the message of the cross and refused to give them a temporal kingdom pertaining to this world, but proclaimed that he is the King of the eternal kingdom of the new world to come (John 2:23-25, John 6, 8)! Another bizarre thing is that he talked about preaching to animals. Whether he meant it or he was simply making some coarse jokes, I don’t know, but he sure spent a long time talking about these kind of nonsense, which at minimum was distractive. I feel those speeches were very unsanctified idle talks. Over all, Dan Bohi alert me a lot. He remind me of the false Christianity of the Word Faith Movement, the Kansas City Prophets, and of Todd Bentley. Todd Bentley was the notorious preacher who led the Florida false revival in 2008. Todd Bentley also claimed that he has the anointing and the charismatic power to heal people. But after he laid hands on people, many of them just laugh hysterically and behave like being demon possessed. Todd Bentley himself ended up with having an affair with one of his staff during or shortly after the false revival and eventually he divorced his wife and married the co-worker. Here are some footage of Todd Bentley’s manifestation of “power”, and “the signs and wonders”. You can see for yourself whether they were manifestations of the Holy Spirit or the unholy spirits. Anyway, discernment is an individual responsibility. I will keep my eyes open and my mind and heart carefully guarded, and I hope everyone in the church will do the same. For “Some men’s sins are clearly evident, preceding them to judgment, but those of some men follow later. 25Likewise, the good works of some are clearly evident, and those that are otherwise cannot be hidden” (1 Tim 5:24-25).

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